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I bought a demo with 100 miles on it this past March. Was 2022 QM. I traded it on my Tri Max a month ago. I assumed it had been rejected by original purchaser and I could see why. Fit and finish was fine, but software was not good. Constant phantom braking and every time I passed a semi on the interstate cruise would slow down, sometimes by 10mph; cameras were not good either. VIN was 15,000 or so. SC tried to fix it, but just wasn't worth it to keep trying. I saw on the last update they fixed a "rare issue" when the cruise software would pick up a vehicle to far ahead. That's what mine was doing. A phantom car would show up on the drivers screen whenever I passed a semi. Anyway, point is any 2022/2023 with a 100 miles had issues that may or may not be fixed. Yes it is under warranty, but SC appointments get old. Buy with your eyes open.
Appreciate your input. You're actually the first person I've seen with an unsatisfactory demo purchase. Not saying there aren't more, I've yet to comb through this entire thread.

How do you like the performance/handling of the tri compared to the quad? Do you miss anything at all about the quad?
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Appreciate your input. You're actually the first person I've seen with an unsatisfactory demo purchase. Not saying there aren't more, I've yet to comb through this entire thread.

How do you like the performance/handling of the tri compared to the quad? Do you miss anything at all about the quad?
The Tri is a LOT better vehicle. The only thing I miss is the Meridian sound system. I'm far from an expert, but this system is ridiculous at the price point. I shouldn't say I was disappointed in my demo either because the price was so much less. I put 28,000 miles on lit in 8 months and intended to flip the demo when I bought it. Just want anybody who buys one to understand what they are getting.
 

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The Tri is a LOT better vehicle. The only thing I miss is the Meridian sound system. I'm far from an expert, but this system is ridiculous at the price point. I shouldn't say I was disappointed in my demo either because the price was so much less. I put 28,000 miles on lit in 8 months and intended to flip the demo when I bought it. Just want anybody who buys one to understand what they are getting.
Can you expand on what you like better? I have a current dual motor and don't want to "downgrade". I drove a loaner quad and just loved the way it accelerated/handled better. Not a fan of the open diffs on the dual and hate the auto height/auto discconect options that I have to defeat each time I drive it. That, and the speed difference...
 

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Can you expand on what you like better? I have a current dual motor and don't want to "downgrade". I drove a loaner quad and just loved the way it accelerated/handled better. Not a fan of the open diffs on the dual and hate the auto height/auto discconect options that I have to defeat each time I drive it. That, and the speed difference...
I might be able to lend an opinion here. I had a '22 quad for a little over two years that I traded for a '25 tri max. The tri Ascend package is what Rivian wanted to make from the start. It's much more polished, the interior is substantially upmarket. Having two motors in the rear with one up front gives a rear power bias that makes it feel faster and more fun to drive. Not to mention that it is faster than a gen 1 quad.

The suspension doesn't make noise like my gen 1 did either. If you can afford it, stepping up to an Ascend is a bump in quality.
 

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I might be able to lend an opinion here. I had a '22 quad for a little over two years that I traded for a '25 tri max. The tri Ascend package is what Rivian wanted to make from the start. It's much more polished, the interior is substantially upmarket. Having two motors in the rear with one up front gives a rear power bias that makes it feel faster and more fun to drive. Not to mention that it is faster than a gen 1 quad.

The suspension doesn't make noise like my gen 1 did either. If you can afford it, stepping up to an Ascend is a bump in quality.
I've heard a lot about the noisy suspension on the quads. Is that solved with the new jounce lines? Or is will it never be like the gen 2? Is all gen 1 suspension is the same? Because my 24 dual is super quiet.
 

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I've heard a lot about the noisy suspension on the quads. Is that solved with the new jounce lines? Or is will it never be like the gen 2? Is all gen 1 suspension is the same? Because my 24 dual is super quiet.
G1 aren't all the same. At some point Rivian switched to a cast front subframe as well as other running improvements. I have many of these improvements retrofitted into mine and the only remaining suspension noise is an occasional half shaft noise which is being reported in some G2 trucks too. That is a noise that can develope with time so newer TM trucks likely don't have the miles on them to have developed the noise yet.

Only drawback to newer G1 with the suspension updates as well as G2....to me....becuase audio system matters alot to me....is the loss of the best audio system Rivian has offered to date...the Meridian. Still find it a pretty major miss that Rivian didn't get something similar in the Ascend trim.
 

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G1 aren't all the same. At some point Rivian switched to a cast front subframe as well as other running improvements. I have many of these improvements retrofitted into mine and the only remaining suspension noise is an occasional half shaft noise which is being reported in some G2 trucks too. That is a noise that can develope with time so newer TM trucks likely don't have the miles on them to have developed the noise yet.

Only drawback to newer G1 with the suspension updates as well as G2....to me....becuase audio system matters alot to me....is the loss of the best audio system Rivian has offered to date...the Meridian. Still find it a pretty major miss that Rivian didn't get something similar in the Ascend trim.
My g1 has the welded subframe. I just read yesterday that if you have any issues they can and will replace with the cast piece. Pretty cool.
 

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My g1 has the welded subframe. I just read yesterday that if you have any issues they can and will replace with the cast piece. Pretty cool.
Correct. And in doing so they replace pretty much everything except the dampers and half shafts. New carbon fiber panel underneath, new uprights in suspension, now lower and new upper control arms. I saw the parts and it was very extensive. Also made my suspension near silent minus the occasional half shaft clunk.
 

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Agree about the battery sitting. I wouldn't think the showroom folks would keep it at 100%, hopefully Rivian tells them better.

This is it, good deal?

https://demovehicles.rivian.com/pro...00-miles-67-800-2?_pos=5&_fid=d40a74e1f&_ss=c

I did notice a few used 22 quads with very low mileage are in the low 60's at Carmax. But that is used. So I guess I'm paying 6k more for 2 years longer on the warranty and "new" status.
The new status doesn't mean anything as soon as you drive it off the lot. Your truck is now pretty much worth what all the other used ones are. Given the long warranty of a quad motor, it seemed like a low risk to me.

For a reference point, I picked up a used 2023 quad, with 6k miles. It was the adventure version. It had been service for ~one year. I paid under 61k for it before tax, tag and title. That was several months ago. I did have to pay $600 to have it shipped. I felt that was a very solid deal at the time. The demo prices were in the 70's on a '23 and some had about the same miles or the occasional one with 100.

For me, it made no sense to go with a demo one. Well over a 10k savings to have an extra year of warranty and buy a "new" Rivian that was still effectively 2 years old and likely sitting on a lot for that entire time which isn't good. Seals and other things tend to deteriorate when not used.

I did a lot of searching but for me it paid off. I had seriously thought about going with a new quad or tri motor, but I could see paying almost double the price. I could have bought a used R1T and R1S for about the price of a new tri or quad. Affordability wasn't the issue, it was about getting the best value for my money. Still need to see how they hold up as well. I've been an early adopter too many times and sometimes the headaches aren't worth it. That was another reason I went with a 2023. Some of the issues were starting to be worked out. Mine has the new cast subframe up front.

Take a look at the TSBs to see what issues are common enough for them to actually have a TSB. I don't recall what Rivian calls it but TSB = technical service bulletin. Those are the notices where the factory tells the SC how to fix pretty common problems. So if they have a TSB, you know it is a pretty widespread issue.
 

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The new status doesn't mean anything as soon as you drive it off the lot. Your truck is now pretty much worth what all the other used ones are. Given the long warranty of a quad motor, it seemed like a low risk to me.

For a reference point, I picked up a used 2023 quad, with 6k miles. It was the adventure version. It had been service for ~one year. I paid under 61k for it before tax, tag and title. That was several months ago. I did have to pay $600 to have it shipped. I felt that was a very solid deal at the time. The demo prices were in the 70's on a '23 and some had about the same miles or the occasional one with 100.

For me, it made no sense to go with a demo one. Well over a 10k savings to have an extra year of warranty and buy a "new" Rivian that was still effectively 2 years old and likely sitting on a lot for that entire time which isn't good. Seals and other things tend to deteriorate when not used.

I did a lot of searching but for me it paid off. I had seriously thought about going with a new quad or tri motor, but I could see paying almost double the price. I could have bought a used R1T and R1S for about the price of a new tri or quad. Affordability wasn't the issue, it was about getting the best value for my money. Still need to see how they hold up as well. I've been an early adopter too many times and sometimes the headaches aren't worth it. That was another reason I went with a 2023. Some of the issues were starting to be worked out. Mine has the new cast subframe up front.

Take a look at the TSBs to see what issues are common enough for them to actually have a TSB. I don't recall what Rivian calls it but TSB = technical service bulletin. Those are the notices where the factory tells the SC how to fix pretty common problems. So if they have a TSB, you know it is a pretty widespread issue.
Yeah for me it's about getting into a quad for half the price of a tri. Other option would be to run out the 3 years on my lease and look for used (or whatever they have then) to scratch my "more power" itch. But that's 3 years.

Switching to a bought and paid for 22 quad is a risk compared to my dual lease for sure. I had to have my tonneau installed and I was lucky enough to get a loaner (quad) so I gave them a laundry list of other things to fix. IF I have issues with the purchased quad, my only concern is getting a loaner while it's in service. If they can do that, I don't care, just want to be driving a Rivian, not a rental.
 

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I got a demo from the Richmond SC back in June. They were an outstanding team to work with and I am very happy with the purchase. That looks like a very good deal to me. Everybody's situation is different, so I hesitate to give advice. But it really does look like a fine opportunity to save a _lot_ of money. I got exactly the vehicle I wanted (compass yellow with Forest Edge inside and 21" wheels--which are highly maligned, but I like them) for $71k "out the door." I think I saved about $25k. While I don't know how the SC treated the battery for certain, based on my experience I highly doubt they abused the SOC. For one thing, charging above 80% takes a lot of extra time. I just don't think a SC would use up that much extra time on a limited number of in-house chargers when the vehicle will only be used for ~30 minute test drives. My purchase experience was flawless and my post-purchase experience has been way above what I have gotten from dealerships selling "traditional" vehicles. (Purchase was Richmond, VA. Post-purchase has been St. Louis, MO.)
 

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I got a demo from the Richmond SC back in June. They were an outstanding team to work with and I am very happy with the purchase. That looks like a very good deal to me. Everybody's situation is different, so I hesitate to give advice. But it really does look like a fine opportunity to save a _lot_ of money. I got exactly the vehicle I wanted (compass yellow with Forest Edge inside and 21" wheels--which are highly maligned, but I like them) for $71k "out the door." I think I saved about $25k. While I don't know how the SC treated the battery for certain, based on my experience I highly doubt they abused the SOC. For one thing, charging above 80% takes a lot of extra time. I just don't think a SC would use up that much extra time on a limited number of in-house chargers when the vehicle will only be used for ~30 minute test drives. My purchase experience was flawless and my post-purchase experience has been way above what I have gotten from dealerships selling "traditional" vehicles. (Purchase was Richmond, VA. Post-purchase has been St. Louis, MO.)
Good to hear about your experience! I am seeing a lot of folks getting these demos from Richmond. I wonder if Rivian sends them there as a midpoint for the east coast? No way Richmond had dozens of demos in their showroom right?
 

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Good to hear about your experience! I am seeing a lot of folks getting these demos from Richmond. I wonder if Rivian sends them there as a midpoint for the east coast? No way Richmond had dozens of demos in their showroom right?
There are still only limited number of states were Rivian sells demos. I imagine they take geography into account when reselling. So maybe ship them from one state where they don't sell demos to others where they do. Just an assumption but it seems logical.
 

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Good to hear about your experience! I am seeing a lot of folks getting these demos from Richmond. I wonder if Rivian sends them there as a midpoint for the east coast? No way Richmond had dozens of demos in their showroom right?
Yeah, I'm not sure what's up with that. VA is one of those states in which demos can't be registered (according to Rivian's site--I've read that this isn't strictly true but haven't done any fact-checking), so any purchaser has the added barrier of needing to travel for the vehicle or, somehow, wrangle a delivery. My only guess (pure speculation) is that Richmond has available lot space while others don't. But it is a curious thing! I dunno.
 

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I've heard a lot about the noisy suspension on the quads. Is that solved with the new jounce lines? Or is will it never be like the gen 2? Is all gen 1 suspension is the same? Because my 24 dual is super quiet.
I THINK they improved the suspension late 2023. Agree with everything donaldstanfeld wrote. I owned two 2022 quads; nothing newer. I drove a combined 88,000 miles in them. I would also add the wind noise is infinitely better in the Tri. It is just more relaxing to drive. Especially when I don't have to worry about the thing slamming on the brake every time I pass a semi.
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