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I've put 200 miles on these so far and quite happy with them. About 150 of those miles have been close to freezing or sub-freezing. I've done about 100 miles in snow, slush, ice and some wintry mix crap.
I want to preface my comments that my tires are still breaking in. I am certain performance will continue to improve and I already see the difference in the 100 miles I drove today.While other people were crawling along at 20 mph, I found I comfortably go significantly faster as traffic allowed. I went through deep slush, followed tire tracks through the deep snow, went through about 5-6" of fresh snow and dealt with frozen over/under passes and bridges. If there was one word to describe them overall, it would be "surefooted".
I would note that If you have lots of ice where you live, I'd get a dedicated ice tire or a studded one. These did quite well in the ice I encountered but nothing compares to a dedicated snow/ice tire when you need one. I spent 20 years in the frozen tundra of Minnesota and Canada. An AT tire is not going to be as good on the ice as something like an Pilot Alpin or Hakkepeliitta. Then again, I'd turn a set of those into an all season tire in one winter. Life is full of compromises, you need to choose the best one for you.
For me, these Goodyears strike a great balance. I haven't driven them enough in warmer weather to compare against my 21" Pirellis but I can see there is a hit in efficiency. I can't exactly quantify it yet and it seems more obvious at lower speeds than higher. It is pretty much immaterial to me as absolute efficiency wasn't my #1 priority. An 800HP track demands traction in all conditions and these deliver in spades even though they aren't totally broken in yet. They feel significantly better in the rain and standing water. Full disclosure - I never drove the Pirellis in snow/ice or much below 33F. Almost my entire time with the GY's have been in the zone I didn't experience with the PIriellis.
If I had to quantify the impact, I'd have to say about 5-10%. Some of that is obviously conditions. Even when the roads weren't icy or snowy, there was a lot of water. For anyone still following, here were my numbers from a run down the interstate. Avg speed was 69 mph (cruise at 72mph where safe). I had the heat on at 71F. Seat and wheel heaters were on. I had about a 15mph crosswind that became a headwind at times. I drove for 20 miles. I was in conserve mode and ambient temps started at 36F and dropped to 33F. My consumption was 1.88 kWm. Battery and motors weren't vary warm for any part of this trip. Battery was at 49F when I started.
I did do some country driving and didn't realize I still had it in conserve mode. I was doing 45-50 and the heat was still on. My efficiency was 2.48 for that stretch of about 10 miles of curvy roads with some nice elevation changes (for Texas anyway). Roads varied from wet to slushy and I had to stop a few times for traffic lights in the middle of nowhere due to construction. Last time I was in that area, it was fall and I was at 3.0 kWh. I had no AC on at that time but I was driving about 10% faster too. Keep in mind I have a Gen1 truck without a heat pump.
There are updates on other aspects of the tires.
Sonic Profile: There is no discernible tire noise for me above 35-40 mph. Some surfaces are noisier than others but that was true with my Factory 20's and 21's. I can clearly isolate the vary low frequency hum at about 20 mph. It is barely audible and my son who is 30 years younger than me couldn't identify it. I've been in engineering for many years and I would say I have a trained ear for these things so that is why I was concerned about it going in. I really like the mild hum. It is never objectionable to me. I am absolutely thrilled with the sonic profile of this tire. A total home run by Goodyear in this area given the capabilities of the tire.
Braking: No chance to really try and severe braking tests other than the first one when I just got them. All in all I've been very happy with the capabilities on all surfaces. In the slush and snow, it pretty quickly bites down through it to the wet pavement underneath and does a great job.
Misc: Absolutely loving the looks. They really fit the truck nicely. The only tires I think might look better would compromise the other aspects that are more important to me. I'll give them a 9/10 an the Atomic Wheels AW01 are the icing on the top.
It took off TC on some roads and those tire will throw an incredible rooster tail if you want. They will definitely play on the AT side of the tire type pretty well, more than an AS. That is where the efficiency of these really surprised me. I always take what everyone posts with a grain of salt, as I tend to drive a bit more aggressively (but not abusively) than most. I tend to drive faster and my range suffers, I'll accelerate harder so range and tire life suffer. So, I factor all this in when reading other people's experiences to temper my expectations, whereas for most people, my results would often be the worst-case scenario, and you'll likely do better than me.
I didn't mean to write a book, but I thought my experience might help others now that I've had experience with more severe weather. Not as bad as some states but was pretty bad for N. Texas. Overall, I'd absolutely buy these again. Here are my subjective ratings so far. Again the tires are not broken in so many values will likely improve.
Efficiency: 8
Ride quality: 10
Noise: 10
Curb appeal: 10
Driving dynamics: 8.5
Wet Traction: 9
Dry Traction: 8
Snow traction: 9
Ice traction: 7
Treadwear: too early to tell
Value: 10
Best money I've spent on a set of tires and wheels in a long time. Very rarely would I buy the exact same thing again. This is one of the rare times I'd buy the same exact wheels and tires. Only thing that might change this is if get like 10k miles out of them which is unlikely. If I get 20k miles I'd have to think about buying them. At 25k and up, I'd absolutely buy them again. I can see all the effort Rivian and Goodyear put into these. Custom made shoes are almost always better than off the rack.
I want to preface my comments that my tires are still breaking in. I am certain performance will continue to improve and I already see the difference in the 100 miles I drove today.While other people were crawling along at 20 mph, I found I comfortably go significantly faster as traffic allowed. I went through deep slush, followed tire tracks through the deep snow, went through about 5-6" of fresh snow and dealt with frozen over/under passes and bridges. If there was one word to describe them overall, it would be "surefooted".
I would note that If you have lots of ice where you live, I'd get a dedicated ice tire or a studded one. These did quite well in the ice I encountered but nothing compares to a dedicated snow/ice tire when you need one. I spent 20 years in the frozen tundra of Minnesota and Canada. An AT tire is not going to be as good on the ice as something like an Pilot Alpin or Hakkepeliitta. Then again, I'd turn a set of those into an all season tire in one winter. Life is full of compromises, you need to choose the best one for you.
For me, these Goodyears strike a great balance. I haven't driven them enough in warmer weather to compare against my 21" Pirellis but I can see there is a hit in efficiency. I can't exactly quantify it yet and it seems more obvious at lower speeds than higher. It is pretty much immaterial to me as absolute efficiency wasn't my #1 priority. An 800HP track demands traction in all conditions and these deliver in spades even though they aren't totally broken in yet. They feel significantly better in the rain and standing water. Full disclosure - I never drove the Pirellis in snow/ice or much below 33F. Almost my entire time with the GY's have been in the zone I didn't experience with the PIriellis.
If I had to quantify the impact, I'd have to say about 5-10%. Some of that is obviously conditions. Even when the roads weren't icy or snowy, there was a lot of water. For anyone still following, here were my numbers from a run down the interstate. Avg speed was 69 mph (cruise at 72mph where safe). I had the heat on at 71F. Seat and wheel heaters were on. I had about a 15mph crosswind that became a headwind at times. I drove for 20 miles. I was in conserve mode and ambient temps started at 36F and dropped to 33F. My consumption was 1.88 kWm. Battery and motors weren't vary warm for any part of this trip. Battery was at 49F when I started.
I did do some country driving and didn't realize I still had it in conserve mode. I was doing 45-50 and the heat was still on. My efficiency was 2.48 for that stretch of about 10 miles of curvy roads with some nice elevation changes (for Texas anyway). Roads varied from wet to slushy and I had to stop a few times for traffic lights in the middle of nowhere due to construction. Last time I was in that area, it was fall and I was at 3.0 kWh. I had no AC on at that time but I was driving about 10% faster too. Keep in mind I have a Gen1 truck without a heat pump.
There are updates on other aspects of the tires.
Sonic Profile: There is no discernible tire noise for me above 35-40 mph. Some surfaces are noisier than others but that was true with my Factory 20's and 21's. I can clearly isolate the vary low frequency hum at about 20 mph. It is barely audible and my son who is 30 years younger than me couldn't identify it. I've been in engineering for many years and I would say I have a trained ear for these things so that is why I was concerned about it going in. I really like the mild hum. It is never objectionable to me. I am absolutely thrilled with the sonic profile of this tire. A total home run by Goodyear in this area given the capabilities of the tire.
Braking: No chance to really try and severe braking tests other than the first one when I just got them. All in all I've been very happy with the capabilities on all surfaces. In the slush and snow, it pretty quickly bites down through it to the wet pavement underneath and does a great job.
Misc: Absolutely loving the looks. They really fit the truck nicely. The only tires I think might look better would compromise the other aspects that are more important to me. I'll give them a 9/10 an the Atomic Wheels AW01 are the icing on the top.
It took off TC on some roads and those tire will throw an incredible rooster tail if you want. They will definitely play on the AT side of the tire type pretty well, more than an AS. That is where the efficiency of these really surprised me. I always take what everyone posts with a grain of salt, as I tend to drive a bit more aggressively (but not abusively) than most. I tend to drive faster and my range suffers, I'll accelerate harder so range and tire life suffer. So, I factor all this in when reading other people's experiences to temper my expectations, whereas for most people, my results would often be the worst-case scenario, and you'll likely do better than me.
I didn't mean to write a book, but I thought my experience might help others now that I've had experience with more severe weather. Not as bad as some states but was pretty bad for N. Texas. Overall, I'd absolutely buy these again. Here are my subjective ratings so far. Again the tires are not broken in so many values will likely improve.
Efficiency: 8
Ride quality: 10
Noise: 10
Curb appeal: 10
Driving dynamics: 8.5
Wet Traction: 9
Dry Traction: 8
Snow traction: 9
Ice traction: 7
Treadwear: too early to tell
Value: 10
Best money I've spent on a set of tires and wheels in a long time. Very rarely would I buy the exact same thing again. This is one of the rare times I'd buy the same exact wheels and tires. Only thing that might change this is if get like 10k miles out of them which is unlikely. If I get 20k miles I'd have to think about buying them. At 25k and up, I'd absolutely buy them again. I can see all the effort Rivian and Goodyear put into these. Custom made shoes are almost always better than off the rack.
The SC said they would do it if needed but I already had it set for the 21's where are almost the same diameter as the 20" Goodyears. A quick note about the size. I think the diameter might fractionally be smaller than the 21" Pirellis. At 70 mph my speedo was always 1 mph faster than what the GPS in Waze indicated. I have notice that sometimes with the GY's, that it flickers between 1-2 mph slower. Unfortunately I didn't my very accurate GPS to test before that would show in tenths. So all I can do is assume that it less than one mph difference between the Pirellis and the GY's. Not an issue for me.
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