20" Inch Goodyear Territory AT 275/60/20 Factory AT tires + saving $

[DayTripping]

I started at 42, then 48, then 45. I want good traction and smooth ride. I drive in snow and ice everyday. I drive up and down a mountain everyday. All Just feel. I felt 48 was stiff and slid just a little on icy stops. Reg braking. 42 seemed best on snow. 45 seems the best for snow and ice and the smoothest ride.

no formal test, just feel. I watched some video on tire pressure so I tried a few.

curious if others run the 48, or drop it down a little? I will most likely try 48 in spring, but my guess is 45 will still feel smoother.

The key is staying with enough pressure that the tire will support your load. The tire companies and manufacturers provide their recommendations that will cover most use cases but may be sub-optimal for some.

With EVs there is a heavy focus on efficiency which typically results in recommendations for higher tire pressures. This can have a negative effect on other driving dynamics, and helpful on others. On my Teslas, I always run slightly lower as I have better driving dynamics that matter to me, at a slight hit to efficiency.

Tesla will actually quantify that impact to my range if I go to the Energy screen. If going on a longer trip, I air up to the recommended amount.

For my new Goodyears, I am still breaking them in and will play with the pressure once I have at least 1k miles on them and a good baseline for how they normally react and ride.

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[DayTripping]

I had the right front Goodyear Territory replaced last week due to a nail in the original. The R1 is now pulling to the right. I don’t get any vibration, just pulling. 8200 total miles.

Would replacing a tire trigger a need for a realignment? Was the tire improperly installed? Have I gotten a bad tire?

The replacement was done at Goodyear, and didn’t inspire confidence in having them do anything more than mounting a tire.

I honestly don't see how they could have messed anything up just swapping out a tire. It is highly unlikely. Try doing a quick tire rotation to see if the issue persists. You might have hit something without realizing it and knocked the alignment out. My wife tapped a curb not long ago and did that to one of our Teslas and never told me.

Not a bad idea to check the alignment periodically and have it set in the ride mode you use the most.

 

[ksurfier]

That is awesome efficiency for a hybrid AT/AS tires.

Are your Grabbers about done? What do you think total miles will be for those?

 

[LL75]

Are your Grabbers about done? What do you think total miles will be for those?

i have about 16k miles on it . probably be done when it reach 20k miles. it was at 6/32 when I rotated it last time. Will probably switch to this good year.

 

[DayTripping]

Most of the snow/ice runoff has run off. The roads were pretty dry today and temps in the mid 40's. So I had a chance to play on a few cloverleafs. I could easily hit the same speeds I would typically with my 21's. So I decided to up a bit as the tires warmed up after a few "laps".

As I increased the speed, I started to get some audible feedback on the grip levels. This is something I greatly appreciate. My Pilot Sport 4s on my Plaid, while very sticky, just hit the limit and then they are gone. Very hard to find that limit, especially on the streets. With these Goodyears the sound helps reinforce you are nearing the limits. I never did get to the point they broke away.

One thing I appreciate is how linear the steering remained even as I was approaching the limit. It wasn't like things became all soft and mushy with the steering. For reference I was in sport mode low firm.

On the way back I got to test the emergency lane change feature. A new Escalade decided to make a left turn from a cross street on my right and encroached into my lane. Made it about a foot into my lane and braked. I moved over a bit as there was still runway and didn't need to take any real evasive action. I was pretty sure I was good since she did brake and come to a complete stop.

Well, I thought i was good until about 2 seconds later when I was a lot closer and she accelerated again. This time the Caddy was about 90% blocking my lane and not a lot of room left to avoid them.

I was able to perform my own personal version of the moose test. It was an immediate hard left right into the center shared left turn lane where an oncoming car was waiting to turn into the street the Caddy was pulling out from. So I had to turn back with a hard right all at about 40-45 mph. I'll tell you it was a real sphincter tightening moment. The main thing is I missed both cars. I was seriously impressed with how well everything worked together on the truck. It greatly increased my confidence in the tires and reinforced why traction was my #1 priority in choosing a tire. I didn't have much margin for error and if I didn't have enough grip, I could have hit one of the two cars.

The Rivian stayed incredibly flat and maximized the tire contact patch while the Goodyears gripped tenaciously. I am sure the lightweight Atomic Wheels played a significant part as well. I absolutely love this combo so far.

 

[DayTripping]

The roads were clear today and I had chance to get some efficiency numbers. I set the cruise at 63 mph. TC said 61 mph with 2.58 but I did have a bit of a headwind 4-8 mph.

When I left my stop, my previous headwind was now a crosswind. I was traveling a bit faster. Cruise was set at 72 with a 70 mph avg and 2.5 for the consumption.

I am pretty happy with the consumption numbers. I was in conserve mode and low. Stock air pressure at 48 psi. No heat was on, but the seat and steering wheel were heated. Outside temps were about 50F and battery pack was at 72F.

I did achieve 5 mi/kWh as well while in traffic. That would give me a range of 650 miles! You have to do a little math, but it was at a 25 mph avg speed. The TC won't show more then 4 mi/kWh. I used 1 kW to go 5 miles in traffic.

I've got about 300 miles on these tires and REALLY like them. I imagine they'll get better when I get a few more miles on them. My overall efficiency is about 2..02 currently, but that is with most of the miles in the snow and slop and cold temps with the heat on.

 

[chewychiu]

This is awesome!! Thanks for sharing.
I secretly ordered a set of these last night. Despite the reviews on TireRack, I trust the Rivian community over other people who are reviewing their experiences in other cars other than Rivian.
When I get my car back from the SC(no ending in sight), I’ll mount these tires up and try them out.

 

[DayTripping]

I am not sure they were reviewing the same tire. I've been very transparent, with experience so far. It was very hard to get out of the Michelin ecosystem. As I said, if I get 25k miles, I'll be more than happy with them. These have been an absolute homerun so far. May not be as good for others depending on where you live or how you use them. That is why I try and give the detail around how I use them an in my environment.

 

[B Digs]

This is awesome!! Thanks for sharing.
I secretly ordered a set of these last night. Despite the reviews on TireRack, I trust the Rivian community over other people who are reviewing their experiences in other cars other than Rivian.
When I get my car back from the SC(no ending in sight), I’ll mount these tires up and try them out.

Congrats on joining the club. Keep us in the loop, but I have a feeling you will have a positive experience!

 

[godfodder0901]

This is awesome!! Thanks for sharing.
I secretly ordered a set of these last night. Despite the reviews on TireRack, I trust the Rivian community over other people who are reviewing their experiences in other cars other than Rivian.
When I get my car back from the SC(no ending in sight), I’ll mount these tires up and try them out.

Those reviews cover the entire Territory line, which spans many tires tuned for many other OEMs.

 

[KootenayEV]

Interesting, thanks for sharing. 45 psi sounds like the sweet spot for you and your use case.

Overall tire and vehicle performance was optimized for 48 psi. Certain performances and operating conditions may have a different tire pressure sweet spot (with potential tradeoffs).

I’m planning to get these tires in a few months to replace the 20” OEM Pirelli my truck came with (I run studded Hakka LT in winter).
First use will be a one month trip towing our 20’ 5,000lbs trailer several thousand km. Truck will be pretty close to payload max of just over 1,600lbs.
Should I run the rears at 48, or bump them up to tire max of 51? Rear axle weight will be within spec but much higher than usual; front stays about the same as unloaded.
(I towed roughly the same previously with the OEM tire and only ever ran 48 all around).

Edit: autocorrect fail (studded to stuffed tires, lol)

 

[B Digs]

I’m planning to get these tires in a few months to replace the 20” OEM Pirelli my truck came with (I run stuffed Hakka LT in winter).
First use will be a one month trip towing our 20’ 5,000lbs trailer several thousand km. Truck will be pretty close to payload max of just over 1,600lbs.
Should I run the rears at 48, or bump them up to tire max of 51? Rear axle weight will be within spec but much higher than usual; front stays about the same as unloaded.
(I towed roughly the same previously with the OEM tire and only ever ran 48 all around).

Hi, I would suggest keeping the tires at the recommended cold inflation of 48 psi.

 

[Rivhio]

Ordered right before the New Year, lived with them for about a week now. I have no complaints coming from the 22s. I was concerned with sound, but above 45mph you can’t really hear them. Even below that, the sound isn’t obnoxious and pairs nicely with the quad motor whine.

 

[DayTripping]

Ordered right before the New Year, lived with them for about a week now. I have no complaints coming from the 22s. I was concerned with sound, but above 45mph you can’t really hear them. Even below that, the sound isn’t obnoxious and pairs nicely with the quad motor whine.

Wait, isn't that what I said upstream about pairing with the whine?

I had a chance to tow today with them. I had a Uhaul 5x12' ramp trailer. One of those overbuilt tank like ones. I had it filled with 2 of heavy toolboxes filled tools. I never went over 55 mph but for the 40 miles of towing I did (10 in town and 30 on the highway) according to the truck I average 2.1 (in AP mode) which I thought was pretty decent. I also had the bed loaded with a bunch of stuff too.

I'd say the overall weight was about 4k pounds. Nothing super tall in the trailer. It was about as high as the trailer ramp/gate. So I'd guess about 5'. As expected, it towed it easily. No issue with the Goodyears. They weren't squirmy or bouncy.

I've got about 400 miles on the tires now. My efficiency has climbed from under 2 with all my playing of the 200+ miles in the snow, to 2.11. That includes my trailer towing as well.

For not being an "efficiency" tire, I am quite happy with the mileage and they are likely still breaking in. So maybe they will get even better. I've also gotten a lot of compliments on the wheel/tire combo whereas the factory 21's never did.

 

[Riviot]

They're back in stock on the Goodyear website! Now we play the waiting game for a discount code...

https://www.goodyear.com/en_US/tires/wrangler-territory-at/24354.html

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