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If they switched this to an 800 V architecture, I would upgrade in a heartbeat
 
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I guess he jumped the gun too early
 

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If they switched this to an 800 V architecture, I would upgrade in a heartbeat
I'm uneducated on the 800v architecture, what benefit does that bring?
 

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I'm uneducated on the 800v architecture, what benefit does that bring?
Faster charging at lower amperage and lower temperature.
 

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If they switched this to an 800 V architecture, I would upgrade in a heartbeat
Not likely. I wager you won't see it until after 2028/2029, once GA plant is up and humming and R2 also due for an update. And that's assuming if new battery tech doesn't emerge to be a better alternative.
 
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Can more knowledgeable members comment on the new native NACS ioniq 5 charging slower on Tesla networks than EA's with an adapter? Car and Driver or Motortrend just recently reported on that.
Is that gonna be same for Rivian vehicles with native NACS?
 
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Can more knowledgeable members comment on the new native NACS ioniq 5 charging slower on Tesla networks than EA's with an adapter? Car and Driver or Motortrend just recently reported on that.
Is that gonna be same for Rivian vehicles with native NACS?
Shouldn’t have that issue since it is based on a 450-500 V architecture like Teslas, vs the 650-800 V Hyundai have. Also Tesla superchargers V4 is rated up to 1000 V and I believe over 600 amps
 

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Can more knowledgeable members comment on the new native NACS ioniq 5 charging slower on Tesla networks than EA's with an adapter? Car and Driver or Motortrend just recently reported on that.
Is that gonna be same for Rivian vehicles with native NACS?
Tesla chargers are I think 480 volt, whereas the Ioniq 5 supports up to 800 volt. So it's essentially 60% of its max charging speed.

Rivian supports I think 400 volt, so should be no reduction in charging (unless Rivian surprise-announces 800v architecture for the quads, which I doubt will happen. But even if that were true, it would still be as fast as it currently is, and would simply be faster on an 800v charger).
 

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Not likely. I wager you won't see it until after 2028/2029, once GA plant is up and humming and R2 also due for an update. And that's assuming if new battery tech doesn't emerge to be a better alternative.
Yeah definitely too much to hope for at this point. I do hope they put in a high voltage system in the R2, and 3. I know RJ said they probably wouldn’t but it would really future proof them for long term and get charging down to 15-18 mins for 0-80%
 

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Yeah definitely too much to hope for at this point. I do hope they put in a high voltage system in the R2, and 3. I know RJ said they probably wouldn’t but it would really future proof them for long term and get charging down to 15-18 mins for 0-80%
For most consumers (not nerdy enthusiasts who know the nuances), reducing session on a rather large pack from 40 min to 30 isn't top-of-mind. Right now, price and range anxiety is. Rivian, despite having a large war chest, is also consuming cash at a very high rate (as it ramp its capacity and product portfolio). It absolutely has to pace itself. If 800V was top selling point for consumers, then it would be reflected in Rivian's priorities.

How many Chevy, GM, Hyundai, Genesis and KIA ads do you see that tout 800V as primary talking point? None. Range and price is what they talk about. And while declining, but still the highest number of EVs out there, Cybertruck is the only Tesla that is 800V.

Supply & demand. Demand & supply.
 
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