Road Trip Planning - Tesla Compatibility

[Rev024]

Planning my first R1T roadtrip. Using Rivian app, ABRP, and PlugShare. I have the Rivian NACS-CCS adapter as well as a NACS-J1772 adapter for Tesla destination chargers. I'm still a little confused about which Tesla chargers out there Rivians are still incompatible with, even with the two aforementioned chargers. My apps recognize Tesla Superchargers that I can utilize with the NACS-CCS adapter, but there are other Tesla superchargers that appear on google, but not on my EV apps, seemingly implying they are "Tesla only."

So basically, question is with the two adapters I listed above, which Tesla chargers out there should I still avoid?

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[pointless]

Rivian app shouldn’t offer Tesla chargers that are Tesla only (some older NACS DCFS that are incompatible, as I understand).

Just enable that you have a NACS adapter in the Rivian app and you should be good with all compatible Tesla DCFS (DC fast chargers).

I just did a ~1500 mile/2 week road trip with a mix of L2 chargers (look for these at local hotels and retail locations, etc.), CCS chargers, and NACS chargers.

I’d say download the apps and try to test charge briefly at as many charging providers as possible that you might need to use.

• Tesla (should be plug and charge but I had to use their app at 1 location when stuck on ‘Starting…’).
• Rivian obviously
• Blink (older chargers may be branded as SemaConnect)
• ChargePoint
• EVGO

I have managed to avoid Electrify America - bad reputation for poorly maintained network and I don’t think they report live stats to ABRP, Rivian…

Others can chime in on what networks they utilize regularly on road trips.

 

[RomanN]

I'm still new at this, but you want to avoid the older V1 Tesla Superchargers that are 150 kW.

I am on a long road trip with my destination being Jackson, WY and eastern Idaho. The supercharger in Jackson, Idaho Falls, and West Yellowstone are all older 150s. I cannot charge at those. This area really needs a RAN or an updated Tesla V2.

I had a Rivian wall charger installed where I am staying, but it still sucks that this part of Montana/Idaho/Wyoming does not have a real fast charger.

And don't get me started on the GD Pilot-Flying J-GM Charging Network charger in Rock Springs that cost me $65.

 

[Budman]

In the plugshare app make sure you have this option selected.

Also, in the Tesla app or on the Tesla website you can select only chargers that are compatible with "other EVs"

 

[Budman]

And regarding Electrify America. I've personally have very good luck at those in the Midwest, Nebraska, Colorado. Check plugshare for sure but I think EA is better than their reputation would indicate in most locations.

 

[eleanor22]

If I am staying in a city I look up ChargePoint the cheapest option . If on the road I look for Rivian and Tesla fast chargers. I have had good results with electrify America . I have been able to charge at all Tesla that show up on route planner . I use Tesla app . I got directed to one that had signs posted ‘only for Tesla chargers’ , it worked just fine though.
I found one from ‘shell ‘ the other day . It was free too!!!

 

[VandalSibs]

I'm still new at this, but you want to avoid the older V1 Tesla Superchargers that are 150 kW.

I am on a long road trip with my destination being Jackson, WY and eastern Idaho. The supercharger in Jackson, Idaho Falls, and West Yellowstone are all older 150s. I cannot charge at those. This area really needs a RAN or an updated Tesla V2.

I had a Rivian wall charger installed where I am staying, but it still sucks that this part of Montana/Idaho/Wyoming does not have a real fast charger.

And don't get me started on the GD Pilot-Flying J-GM Charging Network charger in Rock Springs that cost me $65.

To help you out a little with Tela Supercharger versions, V1 & V2 are not compatible with non-Teslas. I don't think there are that many v1s left out there though.

Most v3 chargers are good for EVs with adapters, and all of the tall, long-cabled v4 pedestals are compatible.

 

[mkhuffman]

For 100% certainty about which ones are compatible use the Tesla app. If you enter your vehicle details on your Tesla account it will only show you chargers that are compatible.

 

[SANZC02]

Not all V3 are NACS capable, depends on how they have the stations configured.

You can search on the Tesla SuperCharger search site and filter on NACS compatible, it shows you the proper list. You can also tell on that map is they show like this When NACS capable.

I use ABRP for my trips, as long as you have the vehicle configured properly, it only shows compatible chargers. I use it for the Tesla the Rivian both saved vehicles and the Superchargers shown change based on the vehicle I have selected.

Edit:

Have not looked at the Tesla map in awhile, looks like they added this additional icon that shows V4 NACS compatible as well, these are the ones capable of up to 350 kWh

 

[CharonPDX]

ABRP and PlugShare both have options that will let you show only third-party-compatible Superchargers. The in-vehicle app and navigation in the Rivian phone app will only show those open to Rivian, and have the toggle to say that you have the adapter.

 

[VandalSibs]

Have not looked at the Tesla map in awhile, looks like they added this additional icon that shows V4 NACS compatible as well, these are the ones capable of up to 350 kWh

That's actually the symbol for charging sites that are "Magic Dock" enabled - the adapter is part of the charging pedestal, so you don't have to bring your own. They are listed on that filter as "Other EV" aka the ones that aren't officially supported by Tesla yet (VW, Toyota, etc. You have to manually start the session on the Tesla app, no plug-and-charge.

Most of them are v3 sites, though there are a few at v4 sites.

 

[SANZC02]

That's actually the symbol for charging sites that are "Magic Dock" enabled - the adapter is part of the charging pedestal, so you don't have to bring your own. They are listed on that filter as "Other EV" aka the ones that aren't officially supported by Tesla yet (VW, Toyota, etc. You have to manually start the session on the Tesla app, no plug-and-charge.

Most of them are v3 sites, though there are a few at v4 sites.

Thanks, I just noticed the one I grabbed that screen shot from and a couple more was a 350 kWh and assumed they all were.

 

[superfly_snook]

Agreed on EA being better these days. I have used EA quite a bit on road trips over the past year with no issues. The Tesla plugs that come up in the ABRP/Rivian trip planner all have been great too.

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