Digital Key Support coming in 2025.46 OTA Update this month

[mkhuffman]

I am guessing it will look exactly like this, i.e. your card key

That doesn't look very secure.

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[Dark-Fx]

Well, if it only works on gen2, it's a moot point now, but I'm hopeful I'd be able to just walk up to any Rivian I have access to, and hold my phone to the NFC reader to get in. This process of having to switch vehicles in the app is pretty tiresome when I need to shuffle vehicles around in the driveway.

 

[skyguyscott]

That doesn't look very secure.

I thought the same thing, you know some guy/g'vment is gonna find a way to exploit a hack on this. Then again, criminals could aways pick a lock/hotwire a car.

 

[beatle]

Gen2 only - at gen2 launch this was called out as one of the key differences with gen1 (and implied to be there on day1… …but I digress).

I see what you did there.

 

[beatle]

That’s what I don’t get though

if it supports nfc, and uses existing wallet stuff why no option for support for gen 1, which has an nfc reader still?


iirc wassym said and then redacted way back in early gen 1 they were working on Apple Watch on gen 1 , but then they said they couldn’t because UWB so only gen 2 gets it

But my apple wallet isn’t uwb…

What am I missing here?

You're missing that Rivian has decided to arbitrarily not add features that could be implemented into existing vehicles that are young enough to still be under warranty.

Hardware changes and matures, and I have no illusions that software will be updated indefinitely, but when a vehicle is touted as being software defined, is at-most 3 years old, and then doesn't get the same features as a newer one does, despite otherwise being capable of supporting them, I call BS on Rivian.

 

[waitingonanr1s]

I sure hope so. Fixing the poor PAAK experience is beyond overdue.

 

[mkhuffman]

I sure hope so. Fixing the poor PAAK experience is beyond overdue.

Will NFC fix bad PaaK performance? My understanding is it will work just like making a payment at a retailer: you hold your phone up to the door handle and it unlocks. Same as with the key card.

PaaK unlocks the truck as you approach, and does not require you to hold anything up against the truck.

BTW - if you have bad PaaK performance, I would see if it could be something related to your phone. It could be the truck, but often it is the phone that is the issue. PaaK on my truck is practically perfect.

 

[godfodder0901]

Will NFC fix bad PaaK performance? My understanding is it will work just like making a payment at a retailer: you hold your phone up to the door handle and it unlocks. Same as with the key card.

PaaK unlocks the truck as you approach, and does not require you to hold anything up against the truck.

BTW - if you have bad PaaK performance, I would see if it could be something related to your phone. It could be the truck, but often it is the phone that is the issue. PaaK on my truck is practically perfect.

He's talking about UWB fixing PaaK. NFC will allow vehicle access, but won't really do anything for PaaK other than add another modality.

 

[tate16t]

Where is texting that was supposed to be delivered in 2025…

Maybe it will be a Christmas gift

 

[mw3101]

This will be a welcome update.

 

[GeorgeHudetz]

Fantastic addition. It would be great if they could make this work with Garmin watches as well.

 

[waitingonanr1s]

Will NFC fix bad PaaK performance? My understanding is it will work just like making a payment at a retailer: you hold your phone up to the door handle and it unlocks. Same as with the key card.

PaaK unlocks the truck as you approach, and does not require you to hold anything up against the truck.

BTW - if you have bad PaaK performance, I would see if it could be something related to your phone. It could be the truck, but often it is the phone that is the issue. PaaK on my truck is practically perfect.

It's not. Common complaint on all the forums. I''ve had 3 different iphones. Tesla works flawlessly every time. For my Rivian, I'm frequently left waiting at the door, being forced to pull my phone out of my pocket to get in (as many others report). I thought this was intended to fix that performance, if not, then they need to. It's the worst PAAK I've ever had on any vehicle. (I also get the same garbage performance with the key fob). I feel ike my gen1 may have actually been a bit better, but it wasn't good either.

Your truck must be an anomaly, because practically perfect is not a description I've seen for Rivian PAAK before.

 

[tate16t]

It's not. Common complaint on all the forums. I''ve had 3 different iphones. Tesla works flawlessly every time. For my Rivian, I'm frequently left waiting at the door, being forced to pull my phone out of my pocket to get in (as many others report). I thought this was intended to fix that performance, if not, then they need to. It's the worst PAAK I've ever had on any vehicle. (I also get the same garbage performance with the key fob). I feel ike my gen1 may have actually been a bit better, but it wasn't good either.

Your truck must be an anomaly, because practically perfect is not a description I've seen for Rivian PAAK before.

You can add my PAAK experience to the practically perfect list. There were problems very early on but were addressed with updates.

 

[waitingonanr1s]

You can add my PAAK experience to the practically perfect list. There were problems very early on but were addressed with updates.

Not sure why they can't produce reliable performance for everyone like Tesla. and many other car brands. This complaint resurfaces constantly on the Rivian subreddit. I've just learned to live with it - but it's another reason I won't be purchasing another Rivian until serious improvements are made in QA, for both the vehicles and software, across the board.

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