Rivian Autonomy & AI Day! Lidar, Hands-Free Driving, Rivian Assistant & more announced

[JWortman]

So launch in "late 2026", does that mean the earliest R2 vehicles are not going to have the gen 3 autonomy platform, or is R2 delayed to late 2026?

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[mkhuffman]

So launch in "late 2026", does that mean the earliest R2 vehicles are not going to have the gen 3 autonomy platform, or is R2 delayed to late 2026?

Yes.

 

[indy360]

I've been burned by Tesla almost 10 years ago regarding self driving promises so this is expected. I bought my Gen 1 R1T knowing that it'll likely never ever self drive. That's just the way technology works.

 

[Eric9610]

So launch in "late 2026", does that mean the earliest R2 vehicles are not going to have the gen 3 autonomy platform, or is R2 delayed to late 2026?

My guess since they are talking R2 platform it will have the hardware but the update for the PTP and full hands off will come in updates over time.

Big question is who holds liability in a hands and eyes off situation. These cars may be hard to insure. I know on MB for full hands off they take liability if the car crashes.

 

[COdogman]

I overestimated my ability to listen to AI buzzwords and phrases for more than 5 minutes

 

[JWortman]

My guess since they are talking R2 platform it will have the hardware but the update for the PTP and full hands off will come in updates over time.

That's my hope as well, wasn't entirely clear with the way they were talking, but hoping it'll be clear soon.

 

[mkg3]

That's true for some people. There will always be some people that need the latest & greatest thing.

The type of person that keeps a car for ~10 years doesn't really care. Neither do the people who don't care to pay some subscription fee for self-driving whatever.

With Tesla's uptake of FSD reportedly in the ~15% range, I'm skeptical this is a market that will have mass consumer adoption without dramatically lower prices. Tesla consumers are among the most tech-interested of any brand.

Agree for certain types of vehicles (e.g., some trucks, sports cars). For vast majority of users, its just a transportation and given a choice of having eyes free L4 point to point self driving versus not having it will mean a difference.

People who have not taken up Tesla FSD are those who believe it's not mature enough or that they don't trust it - which is majority as you point out. That said, all it takes is a ride in Waymo autonomous cab to see how great it is.

Again population will certainly will take advantage of L4 self driving. I remember all the places I had to drive my mother as she aged for simple things.

 

[VandalSibs]

My guess since they are talking R2 platform it will have the hardware but the update for the PTP and full hands off will come in updates over time.

This - the vehicle will still be available in 1st half 2026 (they have been going around and keeping to this date range for months!), but the autonomy parts will go live later on.

 

[mkg3]

So launch in "late 2026", does that mean the earliest R2 vehicles are not going to have the gen 3 autonomy platform, or is R2 delayed to late 2026?

Software is lagging the hardware, I believe. Also don't forget regulatory approvals for some of these capabilities.

 

[captainjp]

So launch in "late 2026", does that mean the earliest R2 vehicles are not going to have the gen 3 autonomy platform, or is R2 delayed to late 2026?

Eyes-off end-to-end.

 

[mkhuffman]

My guess since they are talking R2 platform it will have the hardware but the update for the PTP and full hands off will come in updates over time.

Big question is who holds liability in a hands and eyes off situation. These cars may be hard to insure. I know on MB for full hands off they take liability if the car crashes.

Dave just said "eyes off" will only be available in Gen3. But hands free will be available in Gen2.

Edit: Lidar is required for "eyes off".

 

[R1SFamilyGuy]

Looks like R2 and Lidar for eyes-off only. Gen2 still not left behind

 

[Eric9610]

$50 a month for Autonomy+. For a system that is free in a Tesla... LOL

 

[Eric9610]

Looks like R2 and Lidar for eyes-off only. Gen2 still not left behind

Its just the beginning of the end for G2 cars Like G1, it starts slow...

 

[Honey]

Is gen 2 dead? Lol even a shorter time frame than gen 1. With updates to technology and refusal to make the cars backwards compatible, you sre better off leasing.

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