I am seriously considering this bike but am not clear on the colorway differences between the Launch vs regular edition TM-B. I sent an ask to their customer support and received the following:
Have you looked up cost of non Electric off road bikes? ADD electric and cost goes up. simple google search may contradict your comment.
All have been brought up months before. Including this isn't really a e-bicycle. It's between that and a electric motorcycle. But, such nuances is lost to those who have made up their minds already.
Actually, I see it as better than traditional ebikes if you want exercise AND want to go faster. Now I don’t currently ride an ebike but ride heavily, and at top speed, on a traditional bike. And BTW, every ebike I’ve seen has a throttle that essentially turns it into a motorcycle. I HAVE tried ebikes out and these were my first impressions. Traditional ebikes are either speed or torque sensing. For me, speed sensing provides no real resistance for exercise unless you max the speed of the electric motor. I was leaning to adding a torque sensing motor to my existing bike (at $1400+) but for torque sensing, I would have to pedal faster than I want/can to maintain enough exercise resistance. This is because the gearing is set like a traditional non-ebike with pedal assist. By disconnecting the pedaling resistance from the speed, I can exercise at the pedaling speed I want AND the bike speed I want. Plus Also software will mimic the real bicycle shifting experience with the only real different being pedaling resistance won’t vary with hills or wind direction. So this is a signifcant improvement IMO.
Not true. Most of the higher end bikes don’t have throttle mode. My Specialized Levo doesn’t have it. At 53 lbs if you dial back or even turn off the assist it’s one hell of a workout.
I have no idea how you've managed to only see these, which are far less common, and not the Class 1 and Class 3 bikes which are the most common. The rest of your post illustrates a lack of basic knowledge about the wide options and sensors used in e-bikes.
But don’t you lose the extra speed the ebike could give you? Seems like you still have to choose whether you want a workout or want to go fast(er).
Sorry, I really don't know what the misunderstanding here, I'll do my best to be clear. I have two high end e-MTBs that are class 1 (but one is unlocked to be legally class 3). And a mid-grade, basically motorcycle level class 2 (both pedals and throttle). Let's ignore that one. The MTBs require you to pedal, and even on the highest assist are not work-free, especially on terrain. My unlocked one can do nearly 40 MPH in theory, but the gearing is still not amenable to that. My realistic top speed is under 30, and it requires a lot of work despite the motor. Your road bikes are fast because they are light, geared for it, and on low friction tires. The normal, speed-locked bike tops out at 20 MPH (motor stops helping). If you want to go faster you work harder, on anything without a throttle. You can also choose assist modes and levels in a HUGE number of ways, with very detailed programming. Like I have a hill boost on one, because if I get into trouble on a climb-out, I want instant over-aggressive power without delays. I still have to work my ass off.
Hey which ones? Do they have reg braking? Can you Integrated your phone to play music or podcasts thru the bike and control it from the handle bar? Does it have over 100 nm of torque? Can you switch seats to make it off road or cargo or a cruiser? What is the range and battery size? What is the annual maintenance required? can the SW be updated Over the AIR? These are a few items that if answered may help me understand your concern. Since I can’t find an E-bike with all these features at this price point.
