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Kyle from Out of Spec also said in his recent R2 full tour video, LE will not have Coastal Cloud option. He too is disappointed as he is getting a LE, but wanted the light interior.
Yeah well Kyle also said he received "no special treatment" when he was able to purchase a price-protected (cheap) R1T LE after the price protection expired and long after LE reservations closed. He basically came in and jumped the line to get a LE at the discount price within a month of his 2022 order, before almost everyone who ordered in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021.

Rivian wanted to get vehicles in the hands of influencers for marketing purposes, which is fine with me, but Kyle has always portrayed it as he is just an average guy walking off the street and getting the same deal as everyone else. Bullshit. I get that he wants to protect his image of objectivity, but he compromised his ethics. And since he got blowback on that he continues to try to find fault with Rivian (fairly or unfairly) as a way to demonstrate his objectivity. But this just makes me distrust him MORE.

He has a lot of good content, and I don't dislike him, but I'm never going to accept any rumor that comes from him.

Rivian is the primary source of information for all configuration questions. These rumors about "only silver exterior and black interior" may have some minor piece of fact behind them - perhaps Rivian is churning out an initial batch like this to sell on spec (in the store) while at the same time it will be producing custom configurations. We simply don't know, and it would be foolish to make decisions right now based on these rumors.

If Rivian were really ONLY going to sell the silver exterior initially, then why is that exterior the ONLY one that isn't being shown at SXSW? (OK, Forest Green isn't there either, but all the other colors are.)
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If Rivian were really ONLY going to sell the silver exterior initially, then why is that exterior the ONLY one that isn't being shown at SXSW? (OK, Forest Green isn't there either, but all the other colors are.)
He never said silver and launch green were the only colors. In fact he went through colors and considered picking something else. He also mentioned All Terrain 20's being available on LE.
 

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But the Coastal Cloud and the other colors are all listed in the same section about "Optional" on the Performance trim. Rivian has made no statements that indicate any restriction on which of those options will be available at launch.

So Kyle's saying that all the options (paint, wheels, tow, Autonomy, etc.) *except* Coastal Cloud will be available at launch? That seems unlikely, and definitely not based on what Rivian has said publicly.

Here's the press release. Read it and point out anything that implies that Coastal Cloud won't be available at launch: https://rivian.com/newsroom/article/rivian-introduces-r2-lineup
If they weren't going to have an option for Coastal Cloud, why did they even mention it?

The ONLY reason they shipped only black interiors for the first 6 month of R1 LE production was because they had problems with the light wood trim on Ocean Coast. They had to pivot and redesign Ocean Coast to use dark work to fix the problem, which they did in the first 6 months. They have since solved the light wood problem and made that interior an upcharge. Rivian has had its suppliers locked in for 1-2 years already, and we're no longer in COVID, so I don't see any reason for delaying any of the options for any reason. Any manufacturing efficiencies of running all-black would be offset by the $2k (?) upcharge for Coastal Cloud.
 
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The way I read all the recent announcements are

1) White interior will not be produced for the first batch of launch R2’s so if you want to be the first one on the block it will be a black interior. It does not imply the white interior will not be available for a launch model in the future.

2) The standard color will be Esker Silver. (Just like LA silver for the R1). All other colors will be a cost upgrade (again not unexpected, just like the R1) and Launch Green is an optional upgrade color only offered for the launch model.
 

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It does not imply the white interior will not be available for a launch model in the future.
If Riviantrackr's "Late 2026" availability for Coastal Cloud is accurate, the Launch Edition may not exist by then. At some point they will switch to regular Performance and Premium Dual builds.

Premium Dual motor is supposed to be available late 2026. I would be skeptical they would still be producing Launch editions even when Premium Duals are out. Either way, this all needs to be clarified at some point by Rivian.
 

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Announced on social media from one of the influencers Rivian Tracker. The first post in this thread.
And so we've come full circle.
You're claiming that some backchanneled, non-public, unconfirmed information is true
by citing that same backchanneled, non-public, unconfirmed information.
 

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They should offer the ability to order a LE R2 with a white coastal interior and then just have the coastal customers wait a bit longer to get their cars delivered. This way they can run (produce) all the black interior cars first; then switch to the white interiors on the back end.

In particular for those customers that have already invested heavily in this company by currently owning an R1. Those R1 owners with R2 reservations should not get shafted out of being able to get a LE with a white interior and launch green combo. Or any other exterior/interior combination for that matter, like a Catalina Cove/White or a Borealis/White...as examples.

Worst case scenario...make the white interior a paid upgrade. But don't shut R1 owners with R2 reservations out of getting the launch benefits (free lifetime autonomy +, tow package, fob and launch green color) because of this interior color issue. I know for many not getting the white is a deal breaker.
As prospective buyers we're not entitled to anything unless Rivian explicitly promised them in writing. I would for sure pay whatever the up-charge is for coastal cloud but it is what it is. You didn't reserve an R2 with white interior and launch green. You gave them $100 for an opportunity to buy an R2. If you're not happy with whatever they put out, cancel your reservation. You'll get your $100 back. You are disappointed but saying that you're getting shafted is very much entitlement behavior.
 

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And so we've come full circle.
You're claiming that some backchanneled, non-public, unconfirmed information is true
by citing that same backchanneled, non-public, unconfirmed information.
He's not claiming it's true. I get that you don't believe it. We'll see soon enough.
 

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Yeah well Kyle also said he received "no special treatment" when he was able to purchase a price-protected (cheap) R1T LE after the price protection expired and long after LE reservations closed. He basically came in and jumped the line to get a LE at the discount price within a month of his 2022 order, before almost everyone who ordered in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021.

Rivian wanted to get vehicles in the hands of influencers for marketing purposes, which is fine with me, but Kyle has always portrayed it as he is just an average guy walking off the street and getting the same deal as everyone else. Bullshit. I get that he wants to protect his image of objectivity, but he compromised his ethics. And since he got blowback on that he continues to try to find fault with Rivian (fairly or unfairly) as a way to demonstrate his objectivity. But this just makes me distrust him MORE.

He has a lot of good content, and I don't dislike him, but I'm never going to accept any rumor that comes from him.

Rivian is the primary source of information for all configuration questions. These rumors about "only silver exterior and black interior" may have some minor piece of fact behind them - perhaps Rivian is churning out an initial batch like this to sell on spec (in the store) while at the same time it will be producing custom configurations. We simply don't know, and it would be foolish to make decisions right now based on these rumors.

If Rivian were really ONLY going to sell the silver exterior initially, then why is that exterior the ONLY one that isn't being shown at SXSW? (OK, Forest Green isn't there either, but all the other colors are.)
You really still care about this? Start a YouTube channel, the world is about who you know or what have you done for me lately.
 

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Whether you have a Rivian or placed an order early doesn’t make you able to override their decision or business logic. Sounded quite entitled which I am sure was not the intent.
You can get the white interior with a performance, just not straightaway.
I'm not entitled, nor did I intend my comments to go in that direction.
  • I clearly outlined in my original post that I'm perfectly willing to wait longer to get the white interior of the R2 so long as I can still get it with the exclusive Launch package benefits.
  • I also clearly outlined how I'd even be willing to pay for the white interior as an extra add-on.
Clearly, at the end of the day I don't have the ability to override their decision. Nor does anyone else. They are going to do whatever they want.

But RJ and all of his other design leads have boasted repeatedly in countless interviews how they really listen to customer feedback and make changes. How they actually monitor to some degree what is shared by their community on forums such as these. And to their credit, I believe they have made several changes through the years that proves they do listen to gripes, suggestions or ideas.
So, yes, like everyone else here we do have the runway to call out what doesn't seem right.

You say: "You can get the white interior with a performance, just not straightaway". Well, define straightaway. Because at the moment I don't think there is any clarity to that. Sure, if i wait till 2027 I'm sure the white interior will be readily available....but by then I won't be able to get the free lifetime autonomy + or the free tow package, or even access to the limitation on the launch green exterior. To me that is not cool. Rivian is doing a great thing by giving their employees first dibs on buying the LE R2. Followed closely by moving existing R1 owners with R2 reservations to the front of the line so they can enjoy the benefits of this launch. Good on you Rivian!

But you mean to tell me that you bring us to the front of the line and then say we are only going to service half of you by only providing one option for the interior? Aren't current R1 owners who want a white interior (who spent 100K on your flagship car when you were struggling the most) just as important to service as the current R1 owners who want the black interior?

I said it before. All I'm suggesting is you still give us access to the exclusive launch benefits if you have to push us to the back of the LE line to produce the white interior at a later date.

I don't have an exclusive right....but I think many other current customers would say, that is the right thing to do. So if RJ and his crew are surfing these airwaves like they say they do: then I think this is a good suggestion for them.
 

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You really still care about this? Start a YouTube channel, the world is about who you know or what have you done for me lately.
Exactly, hoping to find a truly 100% honest YouTuber (while trying to balance, popularity, relevance, and income flow) is like trying to find an honest politician. Good luck 😂
 

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...So, yes, like everyone else here we do have the runway to call out what doesn't seem right.

...Sure, if i wait till 2027 I'm sure the white interior will be readily available....but by then I won't be able to get the free lifetime autonomy + or the free tow package, or even access to the limitation on the launch green exterior. To me that is not cool.
What doesn't seem right? You want the free stuff to wait for you until you can get what you want included with the free stuff? Sounds like that is not cool.
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