Are supercars POINTLESS? Corvette Z06 vs Rivian R1T: DRAG RACE (by Carwow)

[dustycairn]

That would be RAD.

I see what you did there.

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[ElGuano]

I couldn't tell how they set up the R1T in the Carwow video. I assume they didn't use launch mode. Is that the fastest way to 0-60 or quarter mile in a Rivian? Or does turning off traction control do the same thing?

 

[Dark-Fx]

I couldn't tell how they set up the R1T in the Carwow video. I assume they didn't use launch mode. Is that the fastest way to 0-60 or quarter mile in a Rivian? Or does turning off traction control do the same thing?

I'm sure they used launch mode later in the video, but they didn't mention anything about it then. Without leaving your foot in the throttle all the way up from 0 to 130 mph, it'll limit at 110. So roll races that last a quarter mile or more are kinda stupid.

I'm assuming the first two standing drag races that the Rivian lost were because he didn't keep the throttle completely planted and it came out of launch early.

 

[Jonger1150]

I love sports cars, but I can't bear how loud some of the cars are. It's unnecessary and obnoxious. A Ferrari or an Lfa sounds beautiful, this doesn't. To each their own.

I wish this was prosecuted much more than it is. I can't sit on my porch without hearing modified vehicles accelerate from the stop light 3000 feet away.

 

[Jonger1150]

I'm sure they used launch mode later in the video, but they didn't mention anything about it then. Without leaving your foot in the throttle all the way up from 0 to 130 mph, it'll limit at 110. So roll races that last a quarter mile or more are kinda stupid.

I'm assuming the first two standing drag races that the Rivian lost were because he didn't keep the throttle completely planted and it came out of launch early.

Roll races are generally intended to give the ICE vehicle a chance. They weren't much of a thing until EVs showed up.

 

[tkauftheil]

If I owned a supercar, I dunno say some fancy limited production Ferrari, I’d make it even rarer as the only one with 200k miles on it. I’d use it as a daily, a grocery getter, a take the dog to the park type of car. What the point of having a vehicle if you are only going to drive it on sunny days with no chance of rain. And only take it to meet up with others who own the same type of car? Boring!!

 

[Eeyore]

No, the R1T isn't a supercar, a stock Miata can get around a curvy track faster.

But you can't haul a sheet of plywood in a Miata, and that matters to some people, like me.

 

[CrazyOne]

If I owned a supercar, I dunno say some fancy limited production Ferrari, I’d make it even rarer as the only one with 200k miles on it. I’d use it as a daily, a grocery getter, a take the dog to the park type of car. What the point of having a vehicle if you are only going to drive it on sunny days with no chance of rain. And only take it to meet up with others who own the same type of car? Boring!!

I think one reason is that most super cars are terrible at day to day stuff. Reliability and running costs (idk if owners care) will do the rest.

 

[kanundrum]

Agree. It's a brilliant truck/suv capable of doing things other trucks/suvs cannot. A sports car it is not.

IDK man, I bet if we are on road Atlanta Motor Sports Park, you in a fully prepped GT86 and me in my R1S doing a lap, I can just drive thru all apexes go off road and beat your line while you have to take the "RACE LINE"!

With a Rivian all roads are the race line HA.

JK, its a well made hippo with some partial moves

 

[Atomic]

I would have some dolt revving his Camaro at the light next to me. I would just push the brake pedal hard and step on the gas. The torque would begin to build and the car would begin to rise.

Mostly unrelated, but I saw a silly video on YouTube the other day of a family's young daughter telling her Dad she wanted to "launch" their 70s Challenger while Mom filmed from the porch. She got it revved up, feathered the clutch out, and that thing practically attempted to break gravity lock. She was on it for less than a few seconds and the wheels ripping full spin. It was hysterical. They were giggling like maniacs.

I've been a lifelong JDM guy, but my first V8 experience was a GS-F and it changes you. I love my small, blown engines but man, there really isn't any replacement for displacement haha.

 

[Cycliste]

Heres some numbers to have fun with and argue over:

R1S Quad Max	764 kW	3095 kg	Curb	0.247 kW/kg	4.05 kg/kW
R1S Tri Max	634 kW	3096 kg	Curb	0.2047 kW/kg	4.88 kg/kW

OK! I’ll argue it’s crazy to compare the power output of supercars to the power output of draft horses.

As a cyclist, my power to weight ratio is 0.0108 kW/kg and 92.6 kg/kW

I do kinda like drag racing cars at a stoplight to the other side of the intersection

 

[2kwik4u]

I will say that as someone who loves to flog lightweight cars through canyon roads, the R1T is capable of carrying *way* more speed than I'd have thought possible even on the stock AT tires. Only really did it once and had to back off because it was mildly terrifying knowing how much it weighs. Torque vectoring on the quad is magic so long as you aren't a complete gorilla and respect the weight on corner entry.

I've done the same thing in my dual motor. The chassis will hold the weight in place FAR FAR longer than the AT tires will allow you to. It's quite alarming how quickly it both builds up and bleeds off speed. Aside from the traction control aids, it feels almost as dangerous as the old days where a kid in a Camaro was his own worst enemy. Without a little self awareness you can QUICKLY get into trouble with these things.

 

[2kwik4u]

Roll races are generally intended to give the ICE vehicle a chance. They weren't much of a thing until EVs showed up.

They've been a thing for years. Any car that can't launch but has a ton of power wanted one. The import guys really made it a thing back in the early '00's. FWD cars making 400+hp and weighing less than 3k lbs weren't uncommon then. Would usually lead to lots of tire smoke from a standing start.

I remember rolling around with the Syclone/Typhoon guys in Kansas City decades ago at the national meet. State Line racing was a thing and all the fast cars wanted to race from 30 or 40mph roll. Sy/Ty's were shaped like a brick, but would do 0-60 in under 4 sec, so you had to know your race and stick to the script. A roll race was a sure loss, and a standing start was almost always a win; especially on the street.

 

[Cycliste]

On the bike at a stoplight, I distract the other driver by track standing the bike (balance the bike without putting your foot down; often a part of track racing) which also means you are in Launch Mode. That and the driver does not know it is a drag race

 

[mkg3]

If I owned a supercar, I dunno say some fancy limited production Ferrari, I’d make it even rarer as the only one with 200k miles on it. I’d use it as a daily, a grocery getter, a take the dog to the park type of car. What the point of having a vehicle if you are only going to drive it on sunny days with no chance of rain. And only take it to meet up with others who own the same type of car? Boring!!

For most people who own any 2 seater sports car, regardless of make or model that costs low (e.g., Miata) or high (e.g., Ferrari), it is not the only vehicle the person uses. Still, some people do drive it as their daily driver.

There is a misconception that all exotic cars need to be constantly handled TLC. Many are driven normally and ever since Honda/Acura NSX was released in the 90's, it has served as a wake up call for all the high end automakers. Today's supercars are far more reliable than one imagine and require usually the annual maintenance only, just like all ICE vehicles.

The cost is high, without a doubt, in every aspect of the ownership. That said, anyone who has owned Porsche, BMW, Range Rover know that all maintenance, insurance and repairs are high.

Aside from the low speed acceleration being not the strength, what separates any supercars from other vehicles, including R1, is the high speed performance in addition to the obvious handling and braking. Many can accelerate to 120mph around 8 seconds and top out around 200mph. Of course one can question why does anyone need to go that fast in a street car - a valid question. Many of the supercars are tracked by their owners on a regular basis.

While I agree that doing cars and coffees and have it as a garage queen is boring, there's lot more to owning any exotic vehicle.

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