Yes, someone else already pointed that out. Apparently I need to nose around the gear shop more oftenMore like the other way around. That’s a new Shepard shirt from the Gear Shop based on the vehicle color. First time I’m seeing RJ wearing merch. I approve.
This is the most interesting part of the interview to me. Seems to imply that Rivian doesn't have much choice, if they want to have state-of-the-art LIDAR systems it's not going to find it in the US. The supply chain, the skill set, the cost structure, etc... all doesn't exist here.
Makes me think Lidar in a (customer retail) R2 will not occur in 2026. Software for this item hasn't been or needs to be redone with new hardware? Too many questions. Not willing to purchase/order a Launch edition R2 only to find out mid-2027 it lacks hardware/software to do what has been promised. Wait a few more weeks before canceling my "pre-reservation".
As has been pointed out multiple times in this thread - whatever the Gen 1 of LIDAR will be is already baked in. This new development of fully vertically integrating in house is a play for Gen 2 or maybe Gen 3. The first-year's R2' LE's NEVER promised they'd have the hardware for LIDAR, just the opposite - Rivian has been very clear that they will not be forwards/backwards compatible.
Agree so all those saying delay until early next year for lidar and RAP1 are going to in 2027 say wait longer for RAP2 and lidar 2.0 - it never ends with upgrades
Kind of like Apple. It's all about marketting, but competance.
For many, cars are just a depreciating asset that get replaced every 3-5 yrs. At some point you just have to jump in with the latest greatest at the time of purchase, knowing the next one will have the latest greatest. On the other hand, there are folks that keep their vehicles for 10+ yrs so I can see the frustration with the ever changing hardware upgrades. At least the software will be constantly upgraded so that helps.
Eh, Blu-ray eventually added everything HD DVD had, then went beyond it. (I say as someone who still has an HD DVD player and a few movies only on HD DVD, in addition to my 4K Blu-ray player.)
Yes, I was going to add that fact in my post but decided not to. As you mentioned, it took quite some time for BD to solve it's format and physical limitations which HD-DVD had already solved right out of the gate.
Wasn't it because of the deep pockets of Sony, who was backing the Blu-Ray format, why it ultimately prevailed?
Yes, it was a while ago.. but that is my recollection as well. Back then Sony was a much larger player in home theater. They had a lot of other big players backing their format as well.
It makes complete sense. The whole point is to control the whole stack and minimize inputs to the devices that they have no control over. RJ has said he wants to control the whole stack because that's how Apple has done business. And it certainly has worked for them (not including cars, but that I suspect was in part because they partnered too much with legacy car companies rather than try to do it like Rivian). You bring too much foreign hardware into the car and you now are at the mercy of some software writers in India? No thanks.
Mostly. There are rumors that Sony basically bribed Netflix and Warner Bros to drop HD DVD. It was those two actions happening within a month of each other that basically doomed HD DVD. (Both had previously supported both HD DVD and Blu-ray.)
