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If you want the Assistant to access your personal data, Rivian now requires a Profile PIN for security. What’s everyone’s thought on this? I don’t recall whether this is optional or not, but it appears every time I get in the car.

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It's optional. I hit skip. You must've been guided into the setup.
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It's optional. I hit skip. You must've been guided into the setup.
Oh, OK. I see the option within the mobile app to disable it. Thanks.
 

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When I simply asked the question ‘is Rivian assistant is able to report feedback to Rivian’, I get nothing it just cancels out. Jose from Riviantracker was able to do this on camera actually. Perhaps you have to be within a failure scenario?
It actually went on to say that I should use the forums because it's known that Rivian engineers hang out on there. Not joking.
 

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Beware of UHF in this update
Routes that worked flawlessly before now have been randomly cancelling UHF midturn. Not very reliable. Almost threw me into the median tonight on the highway curve, after “system fault” disabled UHF. And wouldn’t let me reenable UHF until I pulled aside and did hazard button reset.
Weird. I’ve had the opposite of your experience. UHF seems smoother and more confident to me.
 
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Weird. I’ve had the opposite of your experience. UHF seems smoother and more confident to me.
overall I do notice smoother ride, and lane changes. I like it overall in this update.

But had 2-3 occasions where it faulted and suddenly cancelled in parts of drive that was no problem before.
 

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We updated the day it released…new assistant was working fine. Started to notice very bad signal issues with Apple Music, spinning a LOT, at least once per song, typically in the middle of it.

Then a day or two later we got another update notification for the same update. It’s updating again now, although very slowly…

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I owe Rivian an apology.

It hit 1 billion degrees today, and so trying to be funny with my wife in the car, I said "Hey Rivian, direct the driver side vents towards my crotch". It complied, directed the air downward and said "I have directed the air vents down" in an apparent attempt to not repeat my vulgar language.
 
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I owe Rivian an apology.

It hit 1 billion degrees today, and so trying to be funny with my wife in the car, I said "Hey Rivian, direct the driver side vents towards my crotch". It complied, directed the air downward and said "I have directed the air vents down" in an apparent attempt to not repeat my vulgar language.
Very useful request translation. Will it work for head, arms, etc?
 

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As I said above:


Specifically, if you're allowed to fold the mirrors from the UI while driving, how can it possibly be a safety concern to perform that same action through voice commands? If anything, it's SAFER to do it by voice.

Just because you can't imagine a need for this doesn't mean the voice command should be disabled. Perhaps other people would find this useful? And needlessly limiting the ability of the voice assistant to do things that can be done through physical buttons or the UI also greatly limits what can be done through automation.

I'm not going to go over each and every example, but let's consider folding the mirrors again. You don't need it, but if you spend any time reading this forum you will see that many other people have been asking Rivian for some form of geofenced mirror folding. For example, I might need the mirrors folded (and perhaps the ride height lowered) to fit in my garage. Why shouldn't I be able to say "Hey Rivian, prepare for docking" and have all those actions performed for me instead of having to fumble in various places of the UI to get it done, all the while turning into my driveway and trying to avoid kids and toys on the sidewalk? (I would have been able to do this for years, with Alexa routines, if Rivian had allowed Alexa access to more functions.)

Sure you may not find that useful, but others will. What possible reason is there to limit this arbitrarily? It's actually more work for Rivian to have a separate "list" of things that the UI can do vs. what the voice assistant can do, and if Rivian ever does decide in the future that folding the mirrors while driving presents a safety hazard, there are now two different places where they will have to enforce that (voice and UI separately) rather than just one unified means of authorizing actions. That means more opportunities for bugs, because you have different code for performing the action via UI vs. voice.

One of the ways I use Alexa is to "turn on the camera" when I am pulling into tight spots and need to be able to see more things. By definition, I only need to do this when I'm fully engaged turning and driving in a potentially busy situation - my hands are occupied. Being able to do this via voice makes this much safer for everyone.

But frankly, safety has nothing to do with most of these inconsistencies: "turn on defrost" works but "turn on defog" doesn't? - that's not a safety issue. It's just poor integration, whether it's Alexa or Rivian Assistant.
I hear you. Requiring visual distraction to do (some of) these things while driving is a fail as far as I'm concerned.

But as far as voice goes, is it possible that Rivian is concerned that at least the activities that affect the driver (mirrors, wipers, headlights, door position, etc.) are limited for safety reasons? I get it that you want everything that can be controlled on screen to be able to be controlled by voice.

That makes sense, unless other people in the car or radio can do these things. Wouldn't that open them up to liability claims? Certainly formant technology exists to at least minimize this possibility.

I wonder if any AI tools have been publicly implemented to use that kind of tech for security such as this. I also wonder what the overhead is or would be (local and cloud).

Just thinking out loud; dangerous for me on most occasions.
 

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I hear you. Requiring visual distraction to do (some of) these things while driving is a fail as far as I'm concerned.

But as far as voice goes, is it possible that Rivian is concerned that at least the activities that affect the driver (mirrors, wipers, headlights, door position, etc.) are limited for safety reasons? I get it that you want everything that can be controlled on screen to be able to be controlled by voice.

That makes sense, unless other people in the car or radio can do these things. Wouldn't that open them up to liability claims? Certainly formant technology exists to at least minimize this possibility.

I wonder if any AI tools have been publicly implemented to use that kind of tech for security such as this. I also wonder what the overhead is or would be (local and cloud).

Just thinking out loud; dangerous for me on most occasions.
That's hovering around a straw man argument. The reality is that a rear passenger could turn up the volume to max and distract the driver so they carine into a tree. The front passenger could surprise the driver by turning on the AC to its highest fan setting causing them to swerve into a group of cyclists. Hell, Tesla still let's you open the sunroof FROM THE APP OF A PERSON NOT EVEN IN THE CAR.

At some point, reason has to trump the lawyers. I'm totally on board with @VSG saying if Rivian gave you the power at the touchscreen level (and buried behind extra button presses in most cases no less), then there's no logical, logistical, or safety reason to gatekeep them from voice control.

Lastly, It's mostly about eyes up, hands on. I'm asking Rivian to help me be a better driver. I'm also asking them to not handicap me on a 6 figure car with a monthly subscription.
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