20" Inch New Tire: GoodYear ElectricDrive AT

[Juicy Goodburger]

Update: sent my truck to service for some door pocket repairs and recall notice for hardware in the rear suspension. Turns out my struts needed replaced so my Gen1 quad now rides in the newest gen2 suspension and man is it NICE!

while in service I got a Gen1 refresh R1S on 21” factory with new Perellies. I can say with confidence that the GY EDrive are as quiet as the factory 21” option. Currently at 2k miles.

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[racekarl]

Ok I only see one version of Territory AT on the GY site. Tire rack shows about four different tread patterns for the same tire. GY site does not have the 65 aspect ratio and the 60 is non 3PMSF or H speed rated or XL load index. Seems like a conflict of information.

"Territory AT" is Goodyear's blanket name for an entire line of tires they make as OE AT tires across a wide variety of vehicle makes. Each "Territory AT" tire is semi-custom to a particular vehicle (E.g. the RIV version was designed in collaboration with Rivian). Because these are tires made to be sold as original equipment with vehicles and because there are so many of them, GY likely does not see the value in showing separate photos and specs for each variant.

 

[Yellow Buddy]

After going back and forth between the Hankook Ions and the Goodyear, I ended up pulling the trigger on the Goodyear when I found a 25% off coupon directly from Goodyear - not affiliated, just used google. (TIREHUBSAVINGS) They ended up being $318/tire for the Goodyear vs $282 for the Hankook Ion HT - a much more palatable difference for a US owned and manufactured tire.

Background: I've worn on full sets of Goodyear Wranglers (OEM) on the Ford Lightning, Hankook Ion Evo (OEM) on the EV9, 21" Pirelli Scorpions (OEM) on the R1T, 22" Pirelli Scorpion Zero (OEM) on the R1T, and the 22" Pirelli Scorpion MS (OEM) on the R1T.

I see all 4 seasons in the NorthEast and drive everything from pothole filled city streets, dirt/gravel fire roads, multi-lane freeways, stop and go suburbia highways, and stretches of farm lined county roads. The tires are subject to carrying loads in the bed, 4 passengers in the car, towing a 30' trailer, stressed with plow duty in the winter, road trips, boring commuting, school pickups, and grocery runs.

While not exactly the same tires, and a completely different car, I juggled the high satisfaction I had on the EV9 Hankook Ions. They had good longevity, good dry performance, wet and winter performance were not great but completely acceptable vs...well I didn't like my Goodyear Wranglers at all on my Lightning. So why did I do it? I'm hoping it's just a different tire altogether. Prior to the Hankook Ions on the EV9, I hated the Hankook Dynapro2s on the Lightning. So perhaps this is a similar situation.

I'll update the post when I get past the initial thoughts phase and get several thousand miles on the tire.

Looks: I love when the truck is on 22s in a sport truck look. But if I was going to a 20, I wanted an AT/Off Road look which tilted me towards the Goodyear. It did not disappoint. While they are more aggressive, I love the way this filled out the wheel wells, and the visual chunkiness. There's a different kind of aggressiveness than the 22s and that isn't there at all with the 21s.

Noise: Subjectively. Even with the sound insulation, these tires were noticeably noisier than the 21s and the 22 Scorpion MS tires. They're on par with the 22 Scorpion Zeros but they're definitely the noisiest of all of them and it was immediately noticeable before I left the driveway.

Ride Feel: It made my Rivian feel like my Lightning, and that isn't a good or bad thing but different. My Lightning drove really well....for a truck. On 21s and 22s, my Rivian drives really well...for a car, truck, suv, anything. I love the way it drives. These tires numbed all of that feedback and my R1T drives more like a traditional truck now.

- The steering felt slow and sluggish, but that also means it was less twitchy on road grooves.
- You could no longer feel the road - which also means less vibrations.
- Curves were handled with less confidence, maybe it could handle them but it sure didn't make me want to try. Maybe that will make my tires last longer.
- The ride is cushy, soft, comfortable, dare I say...floaty. I love it on road trips, it's comfortable now, but I no longer think it's a fun or thrilling car to drive.

Without a doubt, I drive differently on these tires than on the 22s, and a lot of this is more due to being on 20" AS/ATs than 22" AS/Highway tires.

Wet Traction: Satisfied. In a thunderstorm there wasn't any noticeable slippage, hydro, or concerns that cropped up. But back to the above, these tires don't give me the itch to go faster.

Dry Traction: They're ok. I'll have to do a launch test but because of the driving feel, I definitely don't push these as hard into a corner as I do with my 22s or 21s.

Winter/Snow Traction: TBD - Placeholder.

Efficiency: I'm leaving this one TBD. FLASH judgement is that it seems to be similar to the 22" Pirelli Scorpion Zeros, but there's been far too many variables to come to a conclusion just yet. This would put my Gen1 Quad at approximately 300mi all purpose highway and roughly a 5% efficiency loss compared to the 22" Pirelli Scorpion MS.

Wear: TBD - Placeholder

Towing Performance: TBD - Placeholder.

Overall: I'll ride on these until March 2027 where if they still have tread I'll likely turn these into my Halloween to St Patrick day tires due to the 3Peak rating. My 22s have their own flaws, but I miss the efficiency and drive feel of the Pirelli Scorpion MS. I love the look but I don't do enough off roading to truly justify an AS/AT tire, but I can certainly justify using it in the winter due to the (theoretical) traction improvement.

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