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I don’t understand the frunk issue - is it worse than a “regular” hood?
I did not have any issues with closing the Frunk. It did not take a lot of force to close it to the self closing latch.

I am amazed that some seem to think they should get $100,000+ features for $60,000
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I don’t understand the frunk issue - is it worse than a “regular” hood?
You know when you close something that's supposed to be power operated but you don't know where the button is so you just sort of muscle it closed? yeah, if feels like that. And keep in mind, when you do this, you're going to have something in one hand like a bag of groceries. I use my frunk in my R1T for groceries often and often times have both hands full of plastic bags of groceries when I get home, so it's super easy to just hit the button and walk away.

But...I get it, it's not a $100,000 vehicle, I forgot you can't make any constructive comments on this forum without someone getting upset.
 

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Went into Boston this afternoon for a test drive. One of the Rivian folks said they’re doing 36 demo drives a day out of that location and it’s been flat out. They have three R2’s: a Glacier White in the space, a Catalina Cove with 21’s and a Half Moon Grey on 20’s. I drove the HMG on 20’s, but I really liked both wheels in person. Given how crap the roads are here, I can’t see not going for the the 20’s here.

So here’s the lens I viewed this 25 min drive through. I bounce between two daily drivers - an Ioniq 5 N and a Bronco Raptor. My hope was that the R2 Performance would be the best of both worlds and maybe a great single car solution for me.

The interior is very nice and I didn’t see any issues with the R2 I was driving. The seat, wheel position, and cooling comfort were all great. The rear seat has tons of room. A bit more than the I5N and way more than the Bronco. The paint. I am not a grey guy, but wow, the HMG is a beautiful grey. The fleck is out of this world … Incidentally, I was pretty let down by the Catalina Cove. It’s just too fat for me.

So the drive. Feels like a Rivian (I was a pre-price hike R1T crazy person) and that’s a really good thing. The ride did well on the rough, cracked, pot-holed roads around Boston. It was far more quiet over this terrain than our gen 1 R1T ever was. It felt much, much more solid, though honestly not as soft in “soft” as I expected or would have liked. Good, but still more rough than I thought.

The power is very good and does come on fast and I really like the sound from the motors. I am spoiled and like power - this thing definitely scoots. I don’t really care about launch mode in any of my cars, so I didn’t miss that, but from a roll - good stuff.

Now the bad stuff.

Not a big deal - The hood was definitely rattling over the roads here. It was distracting, but I’m sure it was just an early build glitch.

More of a big deal - I seem to recall our old R1T having actually surprisingly good steering feel, progressive weight, and even a bit of feedback. The R2 steering has zero feel and is entirely unweighted. It’s kinda weird and a pretty video-gamey with just how light it is and uncommunicative. I drove the I5N to demo drive and as soon as I was back in it, I was floored at how much I preferred the steering. Maybe not a fair comparison, but I was hoping for something close to how I remember the R1 or the I5N! And the Bronco Raptor? Way, way better steering. So that was a let down. But I do actually like the wheel - it’s narrow. Narrow wheels are better IMHO.

An actual large deal - So in Boston, crossing the street is a sport. You have to be VERY on your game driving around here as folks will pop out of pretty much anywhere. And when I was driving back, someone did. Now, in his defense, he was in a cross walk, but decided to pop out from behind a parked car when I was quite close to the cross walk, but thankfully not going quickly. I hit the brakes hard, not quite totally standing on them, but hard enough that I expected them to be able to stop easily. Maybe the pads haven’t been bedded (there are only 245 miles on the truck), but the stopping power was not there. I would expect ANY of my cars to be able to safely stop in that distance from that low speed. This thing came to a stop about 6 feet past the crosswalk. I waved an apology at the guy in the crosswalk and sheepishly drove on. That truly sucked.

So, overall I’m happy I got to drive it today. It looks great, has pretty much the perfect amount of space for us, and the UI is just soooo good - I definitely miss Rivian’s SW prowess. I’ve gotten used to the Hyundai, but wow, it sucks in comparison. That said, I’d need another solid test drive to move forward after that weird braking issue.
 

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Went into Boston this afternoon for a test drive. One of the Rivian folks said they’re doing 36 demo drives a day out of that location and it’s been flat out. They have three R2’s: a Glacier White in the space, a Catalina Cove with 21’s and a Half Moon Grey on 20’s. I drove the HMG on 20’s, but I really liked both wheels in person. Given how crap the roads are here, I can’t see not going for the the 20’s here.

So here’s the lens I viewed this 25 min drive through. I bounce between two daily drivers - an Ioniq 5 N and a Bronco Raptor. My hope was that the R2 Performance would be the best of both worlds and maybe a great single car solution for me.

The interior is very nice and I didn’t see any issues with the R2 I was driving. The seat, wheel position, and cooling comfort were all great. The rear seat has tons of room. A bit more than the I5N and way more than the Bronco. The paint. I am not a grey guy, but wow, the HMG is a beautiful grey. The fleck is out of this world … Incidentally, I was pretty let down by the Catalina Cove. It’s just too fat for me.

So the drive. Feels like a Rivian (I was a pre-price hike R1T crazy person) and that’s a really good thing. The ride did well on the rough, cracked, pot-holed roads around Boston. It was far more quiet over this terrain than our gen 1 R1T ever was. It felt much, much more solid, though honestly not as soft in “soft” as I expected or would have liked. Good, but still more rough than I thought.

The power is very good and does come on fast and I really like the sound from the motors. I am spoiled and like power - this thing definitely scoots. I don’t really care about launch mode in any of my cars, so I didn’t miss that, but from a roll - good stuff.

Now the bad stuff.

Not a big deal - The hood was definitely rattling over the roads here. It was distracting, but I’m sure it was just an early build glitch.

More of a big deal - I seem to recall our old R1T having actually surprisingly good steering feel, progressive weight, and even a bit of feedback. The R2 steering has zero feel and is entirely unweighted. It’s kinda weird and a pretty video-gamey with just how light it is and uncommunicative. I drove the I5N to demo drive and as soon as I was back in it, I was floored at how much I preferred the steering. Maybe not a fair comparison, but I was hoping for something close to how I remember the R1 or the I5N! And the Bronco Raptor? Way, way better steering. So that was a let down. But I do actually like the wheel - it’s narrow. Narrow wheels are better IMHO.

An actual large deal - So in Boston, crossing the street is a sport. You have to be VERY on your game driving around here as folks will pop out of pretty much anywhere. And when I was driving back, someone did. Now, in his defense, he was in a cross walk, but decided to pop out from behind a parked car when I was quite close to the cross walk, but thankfully not going quickly. I hit the brakes hard, not quite totally standing on them, but hard enough that I expected them to be able to stop easily. Maybe the pads haven’t been bedded (there are only 245 miles on the truck), but the stopping power was not there. I would expect ANY of my cars to be able to safely stop in that distance from that low speed. This thing came to a stop about 6 feet past the crosswalk. I waved an apology at the guy in the crosswalk and sheepishly drove on. That truly sucked.

So, overall I’m happy I got to drive it today. It looks great, has pretty much the perfect amount of space for us, and the UI is just soooo good - I definitely miss Rivian’s SW prowess. I’ve gotten used to the Hyundai, but wow, it sucks in comparison. That said, I’d need another solid test drive to move forward after that weird braking issue.
Curious, did you try sport mode for the steering wheel feedback?

This is in the manual

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Curious, did you try sport mode for the steering wheel feedback?

This is in the manual

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That's a great call out - no, I stayed in All-Purpose. I never went to sport in the R1T (or the i5N) as the roads are just too poor here. but maybe that would have been better. Thanks.
 

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Playing around with the center display, under the media tab, there were tabs for FM and AM. It was playing a local FM station. The manual says it uses iHeartRadio. Not familiar with iHeart radio so not sure if its subscription base or not. From the manual:

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1. Choose Media on the menu from the center display.
2. Open the Media Source Selector.
3. Choose Radio to listen to Rivian Digital Radio powered by iHeartRadio.
4. Choose from available stations with the tuner or station list. You can save stations by tapping the heart icon on the media player.
 

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That's a great call out - no, I stayed in All-Purpose. I never went to sport in the R1T (or the i5N) as the roads are just too poor here. but maybe that would have been better. Thanks.
I wouldn't expect the steering to match the 5N (I've not driven it, but I've heard nothing but good things). But I drove the R2 today in Sport mode, and I compared the handling to an X5, because it drives bigger than it is and I could feel its weight, but I thought it drove really well.

I've seen the complaints of understeer on canyon roads. I didn't get to really drive it like that, and the steering was a bit heavy at low speed. But overall, as far as driving dynamics go it really was... perfect... would be the word I'd use.
 

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I hit the brakes hard, not quite totally standing on them, but hard enough that I expected them to be able to stop easily. Maybe the pads haven’t been bedded (there are only 245 miles on the truck), but the stopping power was not there. I would expect ANY of my cars to be able to safely stop in that distance from that low speed. This thing came to a stop about 6 feet past the crosswalk. I waved an apology at the guy in the crosswalk and sheepishly drove on. That truly sucked.
Since you are a fellow 5N owner... my 5N was SCARY BAD at hard braking in the first 500 miles I was considering having the brakes inspected. Post Sebring track day... they are perfect lol.

My test drive is tomorrow and I will try to hard brake myself but I'm more concerned about wind/road noise and the suspension/ride-quality. I had a 23 R1S LE and was underwhelmed by the NVH and crappy suspension.
 

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I thought phone charger was supposed to be Magsafe/Qi. It's not, unless it was user error. It didn't work with my iPhone 15 Pro Max with magsafe case unless I pushed it way to the right. I thought it was going to "snap" into place like a typical Magsafe/Qi.
User Error.

The R2 charger is absolutely, positively, 100% Qi2, which is the industry-standard version of Apple's proprietary Magsafe. Magsafe phones are compatible with Qi2 chargers and vice versa. Also, see p137 of the R2 Owner's Guide ...

After reading the few unfounded charger complaints here I took the time to explicitly test this during my test drive.

Your phone will only snap into position when you place it near the right place of course, since that's how magnets work.

A little thought will tell you where that "right place" is. Specifically, the charging pad is designed for two phones, so you need to be near either the left edge or the right edge - NOT the center of the pad. Likewise, the charging pad has a well at the front to accommodate the camera bump on the back of many phones, so your phone needs to be near the front edge of the pad so that the bump would be over the top of the well with your phone laying flat.

Basically, push your phone towards the front left or the front right corner of the pad, and you will feel the magnets grab it. Charging will then start immediately. Setting your phone in the middle of the pad you will feel nothing and your phone won't charge.

If you don't have a Qi2 or Magsafe phone, then you will need to find the spot yourself without help of the magnets, but once you find the spot it will charge just fine (I brought an old non-magnetic phone with me just so that I could test it and state that for sure based on experience).

Perhaps Rivian could have drawn a circle on the charge pad, but that would be ugly. Or perhaps ship the cars with a disposable paper template on the charging pad showing you where to put your phone. Regardless, it only takes a couple of seconds to figure it out and you only have to figure it out once. But if you go in with the attitude that it probably won't work , then you probably won't figure it out. Do or do not. There is no try.
 

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R2 Performance will not handle like a 5N for sure...it has like double the ground clearance 😁

I'll test drive it when there is an open spot. Its kinda hard snagging a demo drive but looking forward to it. I hope it drives much better than the tri-motor R1 I test drove last week. I'm not expecting crazy performance as I daily a Highland M3P but hoping its as good as the Model Y Performance on the street.
 

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OK - here're my thoughts after spending a little more than an hour in the R2 playing with the tech, poking and prodding. This was not a test drive.

Quick background: I don't own a Rivian. I've test-driven the R1S in various guises five times. I had high hopes for the R2 and made a reservation last Winter. The last few days, I've been experiencing cold feet, which is not normal for me. I'm a tech-forward guy, always run the beta's on my iPhones and research to a fault.

But for some reason, I was beginning to fear that buying a $60k vehicle that is launching with some features that are barely alpha, let alone beta would be a bad idea. Then there's the drumbeat in forums and social media of "everything that is wrong with Rivians"... I'm well aware that forums collect enthusiasts and the gripers; regardless, I've been seriously doubting my choice of an R2 the last few days.

Over the past few weeks, I retested or drove for the first time an Ioniq5, a GV60, the Lyriq, Volvo EX30 and today, the car that was supposdely cancelled in the US then showed up at a dealer this week, the 2026 KIA EV6. The EV6 was the car I almost bought in 2022.

I stopped in at the Rivian Space today hoping to fenagle a test drive but no luck. However, the guys were incredibly accommodating and let me play around in them for an hour, including giving me almost 15 minutes in one of the testers in the parking lot while they waited for the reservation driver. He told me to crank up the volume as loud as I wanted :) Frankly - I was smitten with the R2 as soon as I saw it.

Dimensions: After all of the "it's smaller than I thought it would be's" - it wasn't. Bigger actually. Rivian got every single proportion exactly right as far as I want. I'm 6'2". Roomy! Every button, screen and nob is right where I'd want it with very little adjustment once I had the seat set. The vehicle height is ideal. Easy to get in and out. If hand-washing, reaching the roof and across it will be easy. The width: R2 sits wide on it's haunches and it just looks right.

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Storage: I'll never use all the storage the R2 offers. The space beneath the back floor is cavernous. Even with a spare, there's substantial room beneath that. With the storage in the armrest, the nicely fitted pullout drawer, the two glove boxes, the door pockets (which I'll never use).... there's a clown-car's worth of storage capacity in R2.
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The Seats: VERY comfy. Again, I was in one for most of an hour and never noticed any discomfort.

Interior Materials/Fit & Finish: VERY polished. Tactilely, everything felt good to the touch and under hand. It's got a very buttoned-up, Scandi minimalism and it's done to a high degree. Every bit as well done and generally much better than every other EV I've driven the past few weeks. I like the Coastal Cloud - but I really likely the cozy comfort of this dark scheme.

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The Haptic Halo Wheels: Love them. They didn't feel "chintzy" as a couple of reviewers described them. Sure, they're not knurled aluminum billet, but they felt solid and intuitive. Long-term, for all of the work Rivian is asking of them, will be interesting to see how they hold up. If the mechanism will "loosen up with age" they could get to be a little fiddly as I mentioned earlier. New though? Loved them. One other "concern" that I'll want to explore when I get to drive it, how easy will it be to hit them while turning the steering wheel. They're right where I tend to rest my palms in my current vehicle.
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Sound System: Let me preface this buy saying I was a symphony musician, broadcaster and audio producer for about 25 years. So I have experience - and strong opinions. And when It comes to car enthusiasts... I'm well aware that every listener has very strong and often opposing opinions on what sounds good to them.

I connected my phone and had a "Test Drive" playlist of exceptionally-produced examples across several genres including Contemporary Pop, Dance/Electronic/House, Classic Rock, Orchestral, Acapella Choral, Solo Cello. All artists/recordings with wide, well-captured sound spaces, broad dynamic range etc. Yes, the obvious and enormous caveat: streaming over Bluetooth. But that's what R2 and just about every other vehicle has... and unless somebody devises a way to install a file system, playback and DAC... that's what we get.

After a recent revisit of an R1S. I get the complaints - the system struggles a bit the properly fill that enormous interior space. That said, after some concerted fiddling with the EQ, the current R1S is/can be really quite good. The R2? It's very good. Miles better than R1. And better than every other EV I drove recently including EV6's Meridian . But it REALLY gets good AFTER you get to know the -thankfully- very granular EQ settings. And 98% of the public really has no idea how to properly EQ audio. The out of the box presets are actually better than most and, with some patient tuning, I was able to get each category sounding quite good, even exceptional to my tastes. If a car can give a rich, honest and transparent playback of groups like Voces 8, HUGE WIN. Rivian always says, "it will get better over time." They are starting with the bar set very high. I'd be happy with it as is and will be excited for how it could be improved. Yup- I said it. A week or so ago in this forum I said you can't software your way around the physical limitations of an audio design. Rivian might prove me wrong, at least in this use case. It's not a Linn turntable and McKintosh tube amp through viintage Magnepans... but this system is very good.

The Frunk: Spacious enough for my needs though I now agree with the discussion that the lack of power opener might be a miss. The hood is heavy/wide and the gas shock does not provide enough assistance. If you're short or more slight, the frunk lid is a bit burdensome. Also, the opening hood height is too low. I'm certain I'll hit my head on it at some point. I could wish for it to open at least another 6-12". Neither are deal breakers for me but room to improve.
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The Frunk is fully gasketed and feels very durable inside. Well lit.


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Overall- the R2 is a complete homerun... and I haven't even driven it. I went in wanting to be convinced it was the wrong choice, and within minutes was convinced I have to have one.

For what it's worth, the Rivian spaces thought my number probably wouldn't come up until... next Spring. :oops:
Thanks for your detailed description of the audio system. I have been concerned that the R2 audio would not perform as well as what i am used to, because Rivian relies on Bluetooth to play tunes from an owner's library. What i have been using for years is a usb stick with my audio library of mp3 files stored on it. I understand usb sticks cant be used in any Rivians, because they lack a data ready usb port. I Have used the usb stick in Teslas, a Lucid Air, and now my BMW iX. In each vehicle i have found bluetooth audio sound to be inferior to this usb stick approach. And these cars include software that automatically organize and display the albums/tunes nicely. I get the impression you havent tried the usb stick approach. but , of course, i could be wrong. Please let us know if you have tried the usb stick approach.
 

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Playing around with the center display, under the media tab, there were tabs for FM and AM. It was playing a local FM station. The manual says it uses iHeartRadio. Not familiar with iHeart radio so not sure if its subscription base or not. From the manual:

Radio
1. Choose Media on the menu from the center display.
2. Open the Media Source Selector.
3. Choose Radio to listen to Rivian Digital Radio powered by iHeartRadio.
4. Choose from available stations with the tuner or station list. You can save stations by tapping the heart icon on the media player.
iHeart is a streaming app. Doesn't require a subscription to use but, at least for the phone and desktop apps where it inserts its own ads. What little FM I listened to in it I didn't hear the inserted ads. 🤷
 
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I get the impression you havent tried the usb stick approach. but , of course, i could be wrong. Please let us know if you have tried the usb stick approach.
In the Rivian R2? No - and as far as I know, R2 is just like R1 - not possible. The USB-C ports are reserved for Gear Guard etc. There are threads here discussing workarounds but they only work when parked. It's been said that Rivian has had it on their roadmap but I'm sure it's one of those things that less than 1% of users actually want so...

In other vehicles? Yeah... sure. But in those cases, some of those cars' speaker/audio systems were mediocre so having better source material really wasn't worth the effort as the end result didn't sound all that much better.

Most people I know (which is very few) who go to the effort to play/load from USB are using low bitrate MP3's so it's not perceptibly better audio in the end. Most average cars sound systems don't have very good DAC/Head units to begin with. It's been demonstrated the average person cannot reliably distinguish between Bluetooth and USB audio quality in general and especially not in a moving vehicle. OK, I think they "technically" can but not in a way that matters to them.

In the end, the convenience of having all the music ever at your fingertips via a streaming device wins over quality. So accepting that compromise, I just want to be able to tune it as good as possible within the limits of the hardware. I thought R2 did this better than many.

ONE OPTION THAT MIGHT BE BETTER: WIFI HOTSPOT

WiFi hotspot theoretically should allow higher bitrates though I've read in R1 that it's limited to standard bandwidths. I didn't get to try it. Maybe somebody here with an R1 has? You could easily set up a shortcut on an iphone to automatically connect through such a hotspot every time you get into the vehicle.
 
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I did not have any issues with closing the Frunk. It did not take a lot of force to close it to the self closing latch.

I am amazed that some seem to think they should get $100,000+ features for $60,000
Watching the people in the Rivian Space play with it, it was clear nobody quite understood how to do it, including the Rivian reps. I think that is adding to the confusion or consternation of some. The first time I did it, I thought I was doing it wrong. But once you figure it out it's OK. As I mentioned further up the thread, I do think a better gas strut will give the hood a little lighter touch.
 

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R2 Performance will not handle like a 5N for sure...it has like double the ground clearance 😁

I'll test drive it when there is an open spot. Its kinda hard snagging a demo drive but looking forward to it. I hope it drives much better than the tri-motor R1 I test drove last week. I'm not expecting crazy performance as I daily a Highland M3P but hoping its as good as the Model Y Performance on the street.
All the videos so far say R2 is a rocket... BUT they Pirelli's on the 21" - you can hear them complain in the twisties and reviewers have commented on that. And of course, the stock's 20's w/AT tires aren't performance tires. So judging it vs a Model Y will be tough until you can get comparable rubber. And let's be honest neither a Model Y nor R2 are supposed to be track/performance cars ;)
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