Sponsored

DuoRivian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 3, 2023
Threads
3
Messages
1,600
Reaction score
1,767
Location
California
Vehicles
Rivian R1T and an R1S
Occupation
IT
Clubs
 
As of end of Q1 2026, Rivian has the following buildout -
  • 100 Service Centers (150 target by end of 2027)
  • 39 Rivian Spaces
  • 145 RAN Stations
  • 973 RAN Chargers

HHMoKoNX0AAuI3B.webp
Good to know, I remember years ago the aspiration was 600 RAN locations by the end of 2023! I hope they continue to roll out over the next few years.
 

therealcmj

Well-Known Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Oct 5, 2024
Threads
3
Messages
188
Reaction score
240
Location
Boston, MA
Vehicles
2025 R1S
I use RAN when I road trip, but I don't see how it can be profitable and a good investment. Unless they're accounting for it as "free" advertising the numbers just don't make any sense to me.
 

Yossarian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2020
Threads
45
Messages
934
Reaction score
922
Location
SE Pennsylvania
Vehicles
R1T,Telluride, Wee-Strom, Lynskey Cooper
I use RAN when I road trip, but I don't see how it can be profitable and a good investment. Unless they're accounting for it as "free" advertising the numbers just don't make any sense to me.
I've not used the RAN, but my understanding is that with the price increases implemented by Rivian in late 2025, costs now average $0.63 to $0.68 per kWh, with some as much as $0.74/kWh. I don't know enough about the economics in the DCFC world to know if those rates are high enough to earn Rivian a profit but they seem to be among the higher rates out there.

As an aside, I expect to see the rates for any use of power from the grid, EV charging included, to increase quite a bit in the coming months. While the costs of generating power have stayed mostly unchanged, many, if not most companies that distribute power have proposed significant increases. In my case, my overall rate is set to soon increase to about $0.23 kWh, with distribution charges exceeding supply charges by a not insubstantial margin. My understanding is that the increases in distribution rates are to cover the costs of grid upgrades to satisfy increasing demand, much, but of course not all, of which comes from the proliferation of AI data centers.
 

R2dreamer

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
Jun 20, 2024
Threads
4
Messages
59
Reaction score
34
Location
Hutchinson Island, FL
Vehicles
2005 Honda CRV, 2014 Lexus RX450h
Occupation
Retired
As of end of Q1 2026, Rivian has the following buildout -
  • 100 Service Centers (150 target by end of 2027)
  • 39 Rivian Spaces
  • 145 RAN Stations
  • 973 RAN Chargers
HHMoKoNX0AAuI3B.webp


Source: Q1 2026 Investor Presentation
Unfortunately none close to me on the Space Coast in Florida 🤬 high tech area with I am certain lots of interest.
 

Sponsored

tivoboy

Well-Known Member
First Name
Paul
Joined
Nov 8, 2025
Threads
2
Messages
196
Reaction score
192
Location
Palo Alto, CA
Vehicles
M3
I use RAN when I road trip, but I don't see how it can be profitable and a good investment. Unless they're accounting for it as "free" advertising the numbers just don't make any sense to me.
Superchargers were a cost center for easily 10 years with Tesla. Partly marketing, but mostly to reduce range anxiety and make fast charging available and very accesible.

I think with RAN it was more about creating the culture, AND A bit of having these charging locations available at least near the “adventure” locations.. There were mostly so tiny in ports and so off the beaten path in general that they couldn’t’ be considered highly usable for the general users high volume of location and usage for charging.

And adding tooo many more at this point might just not make much sense. I doubt they have optimized the technology and infrastructure roll-out for economies of scale, as Tesla has done with SC installations.

Question though for the pro’s here.. are the RAN able to actually charge a R1T or R1S, FASTER than a current 250-350kw SC can at this point? Or is everything just a function of the in vehicle DC-DC charging capabilities.?

I’d love to see Rivian really think about where to put these RAN locations with needed higher capacity of charging ports (R2 is going to dramatically change the user base) AND some experiential focus. Where, who knows.
 

Zorg

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2022
Threads
9
Messages
1,002
Reaction score
1,226
Location
SF bay area
Vehicles
Model X
Used the RAN chargers quite a bit for the first 15 months while they were free. Now, not so much
 

Cascadian

Well-Known Member
First Name
Steve
Joined
Apr 19, 2023
Threads
12
Messages
327
Reaction score
324
Location
Seattle
Vehicles
Volt, Outback
Clubs
 
I've not used the RAN, but my understanding is that with the price increases implemented by Rivian in late 2025, costs now average $0.63 to $0.68 per kWh, with some as much as $0.74/kWh. I don't know enough about the economics in the DCFC world to know if those rates are high enough to earn Rivian a profit but they seem to be among the higher rates out there.


Rates have lowered since then. They were uncompetitive. Now they are tiered and Rivian’s get cheaper rates at my nearest one.



As an aside, I expect to see the rates for any use of power from the grid, EV charging included, to increase quite a bit in the coming months. While the costs of generating power have stayed mostly unchanged, many, if not most companies that distribute power have proposed significant increases. In my case, my overall rate is set to soon increase to about $0.23 kWh, with distribution charges exceeding supply charges by a not insubstantial margin. My understanding is that the increases in distribution rates are to cover the costs of grid upgrades to satisfy increasing demand, much, but of course not all, of which comes from the proliferation of AI data centers.
Rivian R1T R1S Number count of Rivian Service Centers, RAN Charging Stations, Chargers, Spaces (as of Q1 2026 / April 2026) IMG_2523
 

VandalSibs

Well-Known Member
First Name
Andrew
Joined
Dec 27, 2023
Threads
15
Messages
1,381
Reaction score
2,399
Location
Eastern Washington State
Website
www.sibulskymusic.com
Vehicles
R1T Dual Motor Large Pack
Occupation
Composer, IT Service Desk Analyst
Clubs
 
I've not used the RAN, but my understanding is that with the price increases implemented by Rivian in late 2025, costs now average $0.63 to $0.68 per kWh, with some as much as $0.74/kWh. I don't know enough about the economics in the DCFC world to know if those rates are high enough to earn Rivian a profit but they seem to be among the higher rates out there.

As an aside, I expect to see the rates for any use of power from the grid, EV charging included, to increase quite a bit in the coming months. While the costs of generating power have stayed mostly unchanged, many, if not most companies that distribute power have proposed significant increases. In my case, my overall rate is set to soon increase to about $0.23 kWh, with distribution charges exceeding supply charges by a not insubstantial margin. My understanding is that the increases in distribution rates are to cover the costs of grid upgrades to satisfy increasing demand, much, but of course not all, of which comes from the proliferation of AI data centers.
There are a few RAN locations in Washington State where the cost is more like $0.41-$0.45 per kWh. We've got decently cheap electricity in the state.
 

Sempervirens

Well-Known Member
First Name
Andrew
Joined
Jul 16, 2023
Threads
12
Messages
211
Reaction score
176
Location
SJ
Vehicles
R1S & Ioniq 5 SE RWD
I really want RAN to partner with NPS and build 10 stations (dispensers) in all 63 parks, This would open up a lot of potential for adventure and exploration.
 

Sponsored

VSG

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2022
Threads
4
Messages
3,209
Reaction score
6,006
Location
WA
Vehicles
R1T LE/RB/OC/20
Hmm, how are you going to get a megawatt of power for a DCFC in a National Park, where the infrastructure typically consists of pit toilets and *perhaps* some RV hookups with janky plugs?

Sure there are some more-urban parks where that isn't a problem, but then you don't have the problem of needing a charger in the park either.

You don't have gas stations in National Parks, the surrounding communities typically provide services, not the park itself.

Level 2 charging would be far more appropriate, but even then only about 15% of National Parks have any sort of RV hookup at all.
 

Sempervirens

Well-Known Member
First Name
Andrew
Joined
Jul 16, 2023
Threads
12
Messages
211
Reaction score
176
Location
SJ
Vehicles
R1S & Ioniq 5 SE RWD
Hmm, how are you going to get a megawatt of power for a DCFC in a National Park, where the infrastructure typically consists of pit toilets and *perhaps* some RV hookups with janky plugs?

Sure there are some more-urban parks where that isn't a problem, but then you don't have the problem of needing a charger in the park either.

You don't have gas stations in National Parks, the surrounding communities typically provide services, not the park itself.

Level 2 charging would be far more appropriate, but even then only about 15% of National Parks have any sort of RV hookup at all.

Death Valley has 1MW of PV and link to SCE. This park also has 2 public gas stations.

Of course Channel Islands won't need this, and as you say neither does St. louis Arch, but why not for the larger parks with vast road systems. (I can name many)

Anecdotal: yes DVNP has 3 RAN nearby at the perimeter but that still requires major back tracking. Not to mention off roading opportunities would grow substantially!
 
Last edited:

skyguyscott

Well-Known Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jul 29, 2025
Threads
11
Messages
343
Reaction score
563
Location
whereverIroam
Vehicles
2026 R1T
As much as I would love to see an expanded RAN charging network, the capital is much more urgently needed in expanding the number of SCs, especially if the high volume of R2 production is successful in getting more Rivian vehicles out in the wild.

For many, the prospect of having to drive >50 miles for service is a show stopper. And, if each SC also was adjacent to a Dealership (Spaces) and a few chargers, so much the better.
Sponsored

 
 








Top