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There's more than one culprit here...

As to the roofline, I rest my case...

I don't get the whole "swoopy" utility vehicle craze. It starts as a tall car with more practical use with more cargo space and outward visibility and then the roofline slopes down to deteriorate both and make it look like a turtle. If someone wants sporty, there are 2 and 4 door coupes, some...

Good estimate! My iX3 MSport Pro as ordered with several packages is $69,550! I'm not sure I see the relationship between range/charging (which are irrelevant to me for my usage) and tech, which I also don't think much about. An EV I can use around town with ~400 miles, even ~300, that I charge...

If battery safety performance is important to you, only the P12 is sourced from CATL. The P6 and P10 reportedly come from Sunwoda. I have not been able to find from Sunwoda anything comparable that has been stated that compares to CATL's NP 3.0 standard. I don't need the P12 range or...

I understand your points about the financials, but I am referring more to sales reports than overall profitability. For reasons one can debate, sales are dropping. The only reason I mention this is not any form of schadenfreude but rather to refer back to the lease comparison a few posts up...

For the Macan EV comparison to iX3, PCNA is more desperate for their brand and BMW is just beginning the benefit of their launch. When we bought our 2025 Macan not that long ago, our salesperson became quite candid about the success of the Macan EV in particular, or lack thereof. Even with...

My MSport Pro came out comfortably just under $70, but checking all the boxes reached just under $90k! No 22" wheels, black "individual" leather, nor frozen paint for me!

We resonate to different issues. Any code beyond "Morse" is beyond me and the geographic location of the plant and the role of the founder just don't register as meaningful. I'm also not looking for a "truck". iX3, EX60, etc. are just unitized body tall cars or station wagons. Perfect. After 7...

The industry legend "Maximum" Bob Lutz ( C-Suite at BMW, Ford, GM, Chrysler) explained that polarizing designs are greatly successful when "love" 1)exceeds "hate and 2)aligns with plant capacity. It's better to have haters than for everyone to think of a vehicle as a second place "just...

Your question is one not answered on their FB page, despite many others asking and other conversations. If you use the International site, they are now quoting at least 12 months for a P12 for Europeans, and the US site does not yet have a build/configure page and ordering is not yet open. By...

@manitou202: I just did the same for an MSport Pro. 434 miles of range for the U.S. I've been away from this forum for a while after canceling my R2 reservation. I came back to see what was happening and saw how this thread had grown. I also realized I would have eventually canceled R2 anyway...

I understand the natural human tendency for confirmation bias but so much here is just not accurate, including "popular" ICE vs EV studies that did not control for vehicle age. This forum has been through this topic before at length and it's not all worth repeating. Hope all goes well for you...

You may recall my focus on battery safety to make the switch from ICE to EV. From what I read online with AI, it appears that Volvo has done the most to get closest what an LFP battery would provide for mitigating thermal runaway risk. BMW is second and the strike shield on the R2 would be just...

iX3 is more impressive, the more I read, but still now 2nd choice for me to EX60. At the same time, I'm realizing that R2 is not the right match for me so best wishes to all who stay the course. I'll probably walk away from the deposit as a small token of goodwill for what Rivian is working to...

Completely understand, empathize, and agree! But, it's not just there...we can beat you on occasion at 120F!

Depending where you live, it does neither well. When I tested one, I could actually see the point of sunlight overhead and felt the heat on my head while the glass was maximally darkened. If you live in mild climates, it's probably OK, but a failure to me in the southwest.

Because that is not actually how the business case works for the OEMs or did for the various carlines I used to manage at one of them. You are correct that a steel roof is a lower production cost; it's not the other way around as previously suggested, but we're not getting into actual variable...

Not a problem to get what I want. Or, I’m just out the door to another brand if no reasonable solution can be substituted. One reason I walked out of a iX test drive a couple of years ago was the ridiculous electrochromic sunroof that wasn’t up to the job. Now, BMW sells iX without a mandated...

Not at all. Either 1) sunroof delete option like Porsche and some BMW models or 2) a solid shade.