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  1. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    I'd like to see Rivian partner with Tesla on the RAN as I'm sure that Tesla can do the installs quicker/cheaper than Rivian. So maybe Rivian can put some funds in to select "adventure" locations for Tesla to open. It would be good if they could be V4/MagicDock locations. That could benefit the...
  2. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    I don't think so, it fails this requirement: The adapter is not permanently attached. (People have shown that it can be removed from the cable in about 2 seconds.) But there are many additional requirements that Tesla doesn't meet, like having a minimum output power of 150kW available at all...
  3. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    Even if Superchargers were open to all they still wouldn't qualify for NEVI funding. There are lots of requirements that aren't currently met, but the main one is the same one that excludes RAN sites: minimum power level per stall are too low. (75-100kW for most Superchargers, 100kW for RAN vs...
  4. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    Well, 3,500 Superchargers is a lot less than the 12,000+ that the agreement covers. I don't see Tesla going dual cable in North America. In 2025 there will likely be ~3,500 Superchargers open to all via the MagicDock, while there will be ~24,000 Superchargers open to the NACS coalition.
  5. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    I assume that is part of the agreement that Ford, GM, and Rivian have made. That when they put a NACS port on their vehicle that it will be in one of the two "correct" spots.)
  6. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    It will take more than opening RANs to other brands for it to get NEVI funds. They will need to redesign their hardware/sites. (For example, the current sites split power having the minimum a stall can get be 100kW, which is 50kW short of the NEVI requirement.)
  7. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    Where can you get an adapter? I haven't seen any for sale. (The only ones I've seen are the MagicDock ones, but Tesla doesn't sell them.)
  8. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    From what I can tell most of them outside of California. (In California they seem to be closer to $0.44/kWh.) Tesla has lowered prices globally as their costs have come down. I wouldn't be surprised if EA raises rates again, at least in California, but currently they use a nationwide pricing...
  9. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    Yes, lots of support has been announced for non-Tesla NACS. There is a tracker listing all of the OEMs, CPOs, etc. that have made an announcement: https://evstation.com/tesla-nacs-charger-adoption-tracker/#tesla-nacs-adoption-tracker I think all of the major charger manufacturers have announced...
  10. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    No. The adapter is supposed to be available "as early as Spring 2024." I'd expect it to be late. (I'm sure there are software changes Rivian will need to make to support automatic billing with Superchargers as well.)
  11. ? Rivian Adopts Tesla NACS Standard! (Adapters in 2024, Standard Charging Port in 2025)

    o_O Where are 4 milling new users going to come from? Certainly not from Ford, GM, or Rivian as even combined they haven't sold 4 million EVs in North America.
  12. POLL: Would you like Rivian to adopt NACS Tesla charging standard?

    And it seems Rivian made a quick change of direction: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-maker-rivian-adopt-teslas-charging-standard-2023-06-20/ Sounds like the exact same deal Ford and GM made.
  13. Top 5 Reasons Switching to a Tesla Dominated NACS Standard is a Colossal Mistake for the Consumer

    I'm pretty sure that is a lie, and Elon/Tesla has recently said that every Tesla would come with some kind of bi-directional support in a couple years. Who knows, maybe if a standard for that existed, other than CHAdeMO, they would add support sooner. Currently CCS doesn't support V2x...
  14. POLL: Would you like Rivian to adopt NACS Tesla charging standard?

    I have to assume they are talking about CharIN, which went from saying this on the 2nd to saying this 10 days later: Essentially their members actually said we want NACS, why did you say we didn't? Almost all of the charging hardware vendors have announced support for NACS, with the...
  15. POLL: Would you like Rivian to adopt NACS Tesla charging standard?

    CharIN caves, after receiving requests from its membership, and says that they will help make NACS a standard: https://www.charin.global/news/charin-stands-behind-ccs-and-mcs-but-also-supports-the-standardization-of-tesla-nacs/
  16. Can Tesla Keep Rivian Out

    They can keep Rivian out of all of them other than the 3,500 that they received funding to open to all CCS vehicles. (Assuming that they really are receiving funding. I've seen it reported in one article, but most don't say that they did, and even that one said no contract had been signed.)
  17. Can Tesla Keep Rivian Out

    I assume you meant Tesla, not Rivian. And it is only for 3,500 Supercharging stations. The money they took is only linked to opening 3,500 Superchargers, not the entire network. Those will likely all be MagicDock. (The roll-out is probably paused because people figured out how to easily...
  18. Can Tesla Keep Rivian Out

    They only agreed to open 3,500 Superchargers. The remaining 4,000 are L2 EVSEs. (ie. destination chargers.)
  19. POLL: Would you like Rivian to adopt NACS Tesla charging standard?

    Not entirely. Kia/Hyundai can charge at 150kW, Porsche depending on the options installed can charge at 50kW or 150kW, while Lucid is limited to 50kW because of their decision to limit the Wunderbox. All of them could have charged at a higher rate if they took full advantage of the CCS1 specs.





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