If a car review has to dig deep into how quickly can you adjust the steering wheel and mirrors (and gets it wrong), you know you've got a pretty good one.
It was, albeit a rhetorical one, but the key part of it is the phrase "appropriate price" - which I meant to be the appropriate price per minute (it should be at least double), not the unit of measurement they are able to charge for. Two hypothetical stations on either side of a state border...
Yes, I know, my point was just how much cheaper it is in those states and pondering why they don't charge more.
https://www.electrifyamerica.com/pricing/
EA charges half the rate for vehicles only capable of charging at less than 90kw, so the math holds a similar end result.
For example, in TX the rate would be $0.16/min (non pass pricing) for a vehicle that can only charge at 50kw. That's 0.833 kwh/min, or 1.2 minutes to get 1kwh. That works...
I did the breakeven math once and want to say it was something like 100kw or less where anything faster and it was cheaper per minute than per kwh (I only did it for EA because that's all we have). For the Rivian, charging in the typical part of the curve that you would at a DCFC, it's 3-4x...
That's not too far off from the eTron specs (204mi on 87kwh with similar stated power numbers - eTron does 0-60 in over 5 seconds), though admittedly that's a repurposed ICE platform from 2019 and is being retired so it's certainly not to be imitated.
But, as Kyle says, they were lightning...
No, I agree with you on the Rivian front, that is the truth. However it's the interpretation of the truth where I differ. Rivian provided all of the detail those 25,000 buyers required (perhaps even all the detail they knew to give), otherwise they wouldn't have been buyers. I have no concrete...
I know what you're referring to and yes it was disclosed, even if you were not aware. You may take issue with the lengths to which they went to disclose it (why didn't the sales person in the dealership explicitly tell me, e.g.), but it was in the documentation.
Older Toyotas got into an issue...
Of course, I didn't mean it literally that everyone falls in those categories on all things, it's just a generalization as a lead in to the main point on this issue.
This thread sums up perfectly that their are two different kinds of people in the world. With the same piece of information (which just for the record was not new nor represented a change in policy/strategy), two camps have polar opposite interpretations:
1. The glass is half empty - Rivian et...
I'll clarify. By getting better I mean newly added features previously unadvertised, not improving the reliability and functionality of existing ones (i.e. bug fixes and refinements). Owners should absolutely expect things like you describe to be improved upon through OTAs to make them function...
That would be a great piece to include with an optional RAN subscription - lower per kwh/minute pricing and renewable match. They could even offer tiers of RAN subscriptions - lower per unit pricing or nominal amount, or unlimited for more $ (both with renewable match). All is still on the...
They just reiterated that position in the update email, that additional products and services will be offered for a premium in the future. What's controversial?
They did, and it was/is free, but said it wouldn't be forever. Nothing in the segment is not true regarding the charging. The rest of it jumped the shark a bit though, it never materialized.
I don't see what the concern is. They will continually update and improve the base vehicle for free through OTA's. They will also, in parallel, develop features that will be charged for. This has already been hashed out and they have already said that baseline OTA's would not be part of the...
The Membership to this point has only included LTE and as of recently, free charging. Extraction never materialized and may never. That is why they addressed only those two things in this update, because they are all that exists as part of Membership at this time. When other services are...
They aren't going to charge you for RAN if you don't use it. They are saying that when you pull up to one starting after April, you'll have to pay to use it. That's it. Perhaps they add a subscription similar to EA where for a small monthly charge you get better pricing with each charge, but...