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DIscreditable would refer to tesla. As they are winning a contest in an unfair way? How so? By using relatively "good" interior materials and giving you them in every trim? Are they now cheating by only producing long range variants and selling the base models with more than 350 miles of range...

Figurative, as in, what metric makes them cheap? I don't understand. You just use the term "cheap" because it is any easy way to trash a brand without thinking too much about what it actually means.

By that logic rivian is using the same materials? We're talking about using "cheap" materials in the cabin and that is not the case. Tesla interiors are the best in the price points they operate in the U.S. They do it because they have to be competitive in china Sound systems, tesla is among...

Have you driven competitor EVs? I'm guessing not. They have plastic interiors at the same price point. Talk about shitty materials. The door panels of the ioniq 5 are some kind of paper material which literally tears when you look at it the wrong way The entire tesla refresh interiors are...

You guys refuse to accept that people are not dying from FSD despite an anti-tesla website doing all the research and validating every single person who dies in a tesla. it's easier to look at articles that claim that tesla FSD is killing people (with no evidence to back their claims) then a...

FSD beta tracker already makes FSD look artificially bad because they do not analyze the disengagements. FSD users will always show more disengagements than are critical because in the moment you misjudge what the car will or will not do. you never know a disengagement is critical until you...

What are you talking about? It's the only source of data that objectively measures disengagments. Because people who disengage FSD just do it sometimes because they feel like driving. How else would you get the necessary data. If you disengage FSD you always get a message that says "what...

Look at the tesla FSD beta tracker. Miles per critical disengagement on highway is 559 miles. Remove any offending issues that are caused by mapping (not an issue in california) and disable any settings which would cause a disengagement (hurry speed mode, allow car to drive on express...

Fact free? Just look at any adas system on the road including driver+. Would not recognize a stationary vehicle so your chance of accident is already significantly higher. Then it will not do an automatic lane change or navigate which means you will have a collision anytime and interchange...

you say that but in a tesla it would be the only car you could reliably do it The miles per critical intervention of a tesla would be 100x or 1000x lower than other brands

you can easily do this in a rivian too. Cover up the cabin montioring camera and supply your own screen Then just bypass the steering wheel which is significantly easier in a rivian because the wheel is capacitive

They are not. Tesla is many years ahead of chinese ADAS. Their driving quality is like FSD back in v10 or v11. The only difference is that the chinese ADAS understand some road rules which tesla does not.

No chance you are saying that if you have experience with FSD. May mobility does rides with a safety driver and the driving quality of may mobility is very poor. They are behind. They only do "driverless" in a very small route in ann arbor and when there is a safety driver, the driver is taking...

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Are you serious? you are quoting electrek and now the dawn project? You absolutely can drive into direct sunlight with no problem using FSD. The guy who runs the dawn project is probably using a windshield which is not cleaned. his logic is that tesla's cameras are "self cleaning" but the...

you can use it yourself and see. FSD data tracker has 238 something miles per critical disengagement (city) and 502 (highway), but if you think about how long each disengagement is for, FSD would be well above 99.9% Those numbers are even low. And most of the "critical" disengagements are lane...

Those crashes are from mostly autopilot and not FSD. 99% reliability is absolutely nothing. FSD easily has 99% reliability now if you look at the miles per disengagement

That's because people are abusing the system. If you use that metric then 99% of ADAS systems do not brake for stationary objects Tesla is actually in the minority here that it can see a stationary object and slow down at a natural pace Outside of tesla, BMW seems like the only brand that can...

if you say so. I have used FSD for a long time and I'm not even 100% sure it won't hit a chain because I've never encountered one. I've only seen anecdotes of autopark ignoring parking spots that have a chain in front FSD definitely sees a chain link fence