I am fairy ignorant here. Do you have a good link that explains 2 vs 5 cycle tests and what the derating is? I have never heard of a standard 30% there before. I am curious and my google search either turned up fluff that was useless or extremely long pdfs I wasn't willing to read :)
Take a look at https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html
2020 Porsche Taycan 4S: 32.3 kWh/ 100 mi in real world testing
2021 Tesla Model S Plaid: 32.1 kWh/ 100 mi in real world testing
That site doesn't have the turbo S, but the Porsche they did...
I live in the same general area and am doing the same calculation. Time spent on forest roads in the gorge / mt hood etc with the 20s vs time spent when I need the extra range 21s.
I will probably end up with the 20s. Inconvenience of having to hit a public charger a few more times a year is...
Also, need to insert standard caveat about EPA numbers being not consistent from brand to brand. Some brands far exceed them, others fall short. My VW ID.4 is on that list at 347 WH/mile. In reality over my first 700 miles with the car I am at ~285 instead of 347.
Until we have real world...
Yeah, honestly 48 vs 50 amps is no real difference. And you likely need a higher end installation / wiring to support 50 vs 48. My (fairly uninformed) understanding is a 60 amp circuit supports the 48, and you need to go up to a 70 amp circuit for the 50. That adds cost for very little extra...
I would be 100% fine with $8 to $10 per gallon due to taxes. Pricing in externalities leads to people making better decisions. However it is politically unfeasible, and also it is an extremely regressive tax.
I also would be totally fine with this. Taxes based on car emissions acurately...
If you drive a LOT daily, then it should be. You need to pick a car that works for your driving habits. But for most people, I think the American EV market is too fixated on range. And for total clarity, I too was fixated on it too much when searching for our last car. I was focused on...
You should check with your state / local government and your power company. Mine has exactly 4 models for which they will give you a $500 time of installation rebate plus a quarterly $25 rebate on your power bill. They also require hardwiring for those rebates. Personally I was going to go...
True, they are rebates, but they are related to taxes as they are an expenditure of taxes gathered. The money comes from somewhere. I did just get the $2500 POS rebate on my ID.4 and turn around and pay an extra $300 on registration. It made me laugh. It isn't the end of the world and I...
No I don't. Being solvable problems, and being a solvable problem by me in my spare time are different things. :)
When we are talking about billions of dollars of taxpayer money being spent here, having a little complexity be put together in order to spend that money efficiently is a good...
- you can easily classify 2 and 3 row SUV's in different categories. You can also classify crossover vs SUV, or do it by weight. All solvable problems
- I am not concerned about the market being flooded with 50 mile BEVs. They won't sell. The cost difference to produce a 50 mile BEV vs a...
Yup, you nailed it. Other countries both do not subsidize gas, they tax it at a much higher level that more accurately prices in externalities.
And on the "paying for them to buy EVs and paying for them to not buy EVs", Oregon has the brilliant plan of giving out a $2500 tax rebate for EV...
All reasonable points, I still however think that range should not be a factor in the rebates. The American consumer is already overly fixated on EV range, when most of them only drive more than 50 to 100 miles a day a handful of times a year. Smaller cars, with smaller batteries can be made...
That is totally possible. That said every other new and interesting EV in the last year also has a long wait list / lead time. It is hard to tell if that excess demand is due to supply chain problems vs excess demand though.
My experience so far is my ChargePoint Home Flex looks great on my floor :) I can't get an electrician to respond to my inquires and come and install. Construction is super backed up here. Amazingly, the L1 charger the car came with is working just fine
Alternative approach. I have a friend who has a smaller around town car he loves. He does 1 or 2 really long road trips a year with the family and he just rents a huge vehicle to haul everything for those 2 trips. I understand not wanting to do that approach, but it isn't totally insane.
I don't think longer range should get a bigger incentive. A 50 KWH battery that covers someone's needs is better for the environment than production of a 100KWH battery that is overkill for their needs.
An alternative proposal that has the opposite problem to yours is to offer rebates based on...
This hits the nail in the head. I recently switched one of our 2 vehicles to electric and realized range anxiety made no sense for most people. Let's take your average driver with a longish (but not crazy) commute of 50 miles round trip a day. Plus a couple of road trips a year. For normal...