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There wasn’t much love for Midnight with R1 either. People want color on their vehicles hence launch green and Catalina Cove being popular.

Thanks for the detailed summary. I have leased a base Premium which has standard blackout package and looks good in white. Price is a major factory when you can buy for $36k and leasing is subsidized. One thing I don’t agree is with power- reviews state 4s bs the quoted 4.4s and it is fast.

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Thanks for sharing, looks really good. In the photo with two launch green R2s - are they both in stealth?

They cover that in the agreement “You understand and authorize the Firm to proceed with filing your claim(s) as an individual arbitration rather than in a court.” Will be interesting to see how this proceeds.

Thanks - very interested in how it turns out.

How did pick up go?

I agree the timing is not lined up, my point was saying Gen 3 R2 is misleading because this is adas only with the rest of the car unchanged.

I agree the Rivian software is worth a premium.

I would like more range but when Rivian sell an R1 with similar range (or less depending on tires) and the R2 RWD will be in their 270-280 range then Toyota/Subaru can’t be criticized too much, especially as it is AWD. They have efficiency down (c. 3.7 miles /kWh) and I do like its lighter and...

“Gen 3” Adas not a Gen 3 vehicle because the rest including new heat pump, motors and infotainment chip won’t be changing in six months time. Most people don’t care for the absolute best adas and gen 2 should by early next year give decent functionality.

Yes the software has gaps (the route planned will be there by year end for the Highlander) and there are some other issues but fundamentally a good driving car that is efficient (3.7+ miles/kWh), well priced, light (4500lb) and spacious.

Completely agree with you that they are two different worlds and audiences. I can appreciate a start stop button and no vampire drain but at the same time miss the just get in and select drive of the Rivian. I can appreciate the ease of changing the 12v battery under the hood but at the same...

Why would it offend me? I have an R1 and awaiting converting my day 1 R2 reservation so I am a Rivian fan. It is fair to note that the Trailseeker (for the money) is a good vehicle and Toyota have moved on (to some degree) from their skepticism (which did allow them to avoid multi billion dollar...

Of course the R2 is the better vehicle for serious off roading. How many in this class do that???Just as with the R1. The Trailseeker does a decent job as a vehicle that happens to be an EV and if you want mainstream adoption of EVs then this is the right approach. They have work to do but Gen 2...

8.5 vs 9.6” - yeah comparable.

Yes fair comparison in terms of cargo capacity, interior room, speed (4 seconds 0-60), price (starts at $40k), with similar ground clearance, off road modes and heritage. My wife is leasing a Trailseeker and while the software is crap by comparison the ride, driving dynamics and acceleration are...

It will be interesting if they keep with the Tuesday emails and as the weeks progress and more VINs added we should get an idea of how many per week are being made.

I think for everyone one who says I am out there are ten plus saying I am in - people dropping out seem very rare.

Literally one out of 80 orders on this site is midnight - a rare color. They should cancel it and have Red Canyon.