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Generally speaking people have had decent experiences, except for the lack of capacity. The senior people that were let go were specifically trusted by owners.

No, like they literally have to fly a tech into the market to service those components. But yeah, continue giving people rentals for three weeks while their cars it in a SC lot not getting worked on because they don't have enough service techs. That's definitely the way to profitability.

Nah, they are just cutting costs. WA no longer has someone who can work on the HV packs because they laid off the senior tech here. They underpay techs, and are pushing it further by removing experienced techs.

Do you have continuous clicking?

And yet they still have a shortage of staff and it takes 3 months to schedule a service appointment.

FWIW, I don't believe these issues are present for the vehicles with the Rivian made motors. It's very common (I suspect present in every) on the gen1 quad vehicles, but I haven't really heard of it, or experienced it, on the dual motor builds or the tri motor vehicles.

My understanding is it included a service manager who had gained a lot of brand loyalty from customers and at least one service tech who worked on consumer vehicles. So yes, it likely impacts customer service operations. Edit: Additionally they let go of 7 techs, service advisors, or service...

Laying off service staff is a bit surprising to me when they still can't keep up with service demand.

Crossing a mountain pass "PLEASE WAKE UP, THERE MAY BE SNOW IN A MILE AND THERE IS NO EXIT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN." When you're asleep and you encounter fog "I need to stop here. Please wake up!" Proceeds to stop on the side of the road. I understand the dream you have, but there are *a lot* of...

What's your restriction here? If hits fog? If it can drive you while you're sleeping, that's not restricted. They don't restrict AP to where it says in the manual to use it. Robotaxi in Austin is a supervised test set bud. What you described previously is not what you are backing in to now.

Tesla doesn't restrict shit, don't move the goal posts. lmao. Regardless, if AI were better than humans in "unusual situations" like you described, it wouldn't need to be restricted. If I'm "napping away at night" while it's driving me cross country in a rural area and runs into fog, what's it...

In those instances the liability would not lie with Tesla, as they would not be at fault (at least with your assumption). My point is, they will not take ownership for your life if the car has an otherwise avoidable crash. At least not without you getting extraordinary data and suing them. If...

That is not them taking on liability. That is you paying them to cover their ass. If a self driving system is truly as reliable and magical as described, the cost center associated with accidents would be trivial and would not require you to pay for covering their liability costs.

Not magically. If all of Tesla's overhead were sitting on the Model S and X they'd be burning money faster than Rivian. Also, they have achieved gross margin profit bud.

I look forward to the day that Tesla own all liability associated with FSD accidents to the same degree as a human driver does. Is Tesla taking over all liability while you sleep? No. When they do, then we can talk about sleeping. This is not true. The current models and approach that Tesla...

I probably missed some very interesting posts over the next four pages, but I'll toss my thoughts in here. Rivian focused on making an inexpensive vehicle. They have a lot of the same manufacturing approaches as Tesla has with the model Y. Some people will choose the Y, some will choose the...

Riviot is planning on snagging them. If it falls through I'll let you know.

Mine specifically do not fit Gen2 unfortunately. Otherwise they'd be coming with me. 😁 Depends on the person. I do sometimes. My wife did sometimes. But we are both able to go butt to seat without. It sounds like shorter people tend to use them as a step more. I got them off, and cleaned them...

Mine have been great so far too!

I am selling my sliders as I have purchasing a Gen2 R1T. They're in good condition. Looking for $1100. They are $2,000+shipping new from Electruck. If I don't have them sold by the time I take them off, I'll take more photos of them removed.