Any dual motor folks out there?

[skyguyscott]

GOAT Fabrication will sell their sliders without the top plate on them. Most people opt for the top plate. Only photo I have is from when we were doing the very early prototyping.

And are they <= $5k?

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[Calilifer]

It's pretty pricey, I'm looking at the EV Sportline ones tbf. I need them for more pedestrian uses rn.

 

[2kwik4u]

Putting aside the half shaft problem I really don’t notice a performance difference at all.

You know the skinny pedal goes all the way to the floor right?

This is about the most absurd take I've seen on here. There is an enormous difference between a dual motor and a quad motor. Somewhere on the order of 300hp and 400ft-lb of torque difference. The only way you couldn't tell a difference is if you didn't try, or have serious inner ear issues that won't let you feel the acceleration difference.

 

[skyguyscott]

You know the skinny pedal goes all the way to the floor right?

This is about the most absurd take I've seen on here. There is an enormous difference between a dual motor and a quad motor. Somewhere on the order of 300hp and 400ft-lb of torque difference. The only way you couldn't tell a difference is if you didn't try, or have serious inner ear issues that won't let you feel the acceleration difference.

Unless I am mistaken, I believe the difference in question revolves around unlocking the
$5K software performance package rather than choosing a tri-motor or quad-motor over the dual motor.

This is a software update that basically alters how the motors, suspension etc. respond to driver input, and Rivian charges $5000 for it. There is no change in hardware.

 

[2kwik4u]

Unless I am mistaken, I believe the difference in question revolves around unlocking the
$5K software performance package rather than choosing a tri-motor or quad-motor over the dual motor.

This is a software update that basically alters how the motors, suspension etc. respond to driver input, and Rivian charges $5000 for it. There is no change in hardware.

No, I understand. I was responding to someone that couldn't tell the difference between his launch edition quad motor and his new dual motor non-performance. There's a mile between those two, and I'm genuinely perplexed how one couldn't tell the difference.

I was responding to this post:

I had LE QM R1T. Finally got Rivian to take it back (bad half shafts and splines) and at my request it was replaced with a DM R1T. Putting aside the half shaft problem I really don’t notice a performance difference at all. I wouldn’t pay anything to add on the performance package. I am happy with the DM as received.

 

[Kaiju]

Yeah, the 5k is pretty steep but there's a bit of nuance in there. It's not 5k for a software upgrade and drive modes, it's basically paying back the margin Rivian cut from the price of the dual motors to make the sale more palatable and/or to get under the 80k sticker limits when the EV credits were in place. The DMP is probably what the core dual motor was supposed to be but it cost too much.

Similar to the standard+ batteries, I get the impression the non-perf dual motors are to an extent subsidized to get vehicles out the door while leaving in the possibility of recovering it later through the 'upgrade' because the fixed vehicle costs never changed. They just had to limit it by software or else, well, why would anyone ever pay the extra money? So while it costs them nothing to enable it, they basically want you to pay back the money they ate to get the sale.

When I bought mine I wanted to take a standard+ DMP but there was an incentive with good money off a dual large non-performance so I made the more pragmatic choice, especially since adding anything more to the sticker would've also cost me the EV tax credit. I knew at the time the upgrade was a possible thing but was prepared to just live with my choice.

What changed it for me was when they gave sport mode for free to the dual owners and importantly listened to feedback about the ride quality in low. I'd been on the fence because I didn't want to spend the money to only have the extra HP mostly locked in a mode I'd never use for daily driving. Adding in standard height makes a huge difference in ride quality and after being able to test it for a while I concluded that yeah, I was OK with this.

Added bonus: vastly reduced torque steer running with both motors. I didn't realize why it kept pulling to the side so much until I drove a lot in sport mode and switched back.

So I paid them their $5k. Is it a bit frivilous? Yeah. Spending money on extra make-go-fast sorta universally is. It definitely feels like a heftier chunk of change coming out of pocket until you realize it's 6% of the sticker price (or less if you have a max). People doing leases or payments would hardly notice so it feels much more punishing to do it after the fact. But incentives and tax money made it so I saved money in the end vs having bought it up front, so I sucked that up.

Is it worth it? If you still drive in all purpose all the time, not really. It's too much money for a party trick that you need to switch modes for. You need to live in sport mode and if you do I'd argue yes, because it's the only way to get 100% out of the thing you paid for. The increase in available HP and torque is hefty in sport and it closes the gaps enough with the tri and gen 1 quads to be in a happy place.

 

[Jonger1150]

I have the dual motor and honestly I have no idea why people feel the need for this thing to be faster. It's a 7k pound SUV, it's never going to feel remotely close to a sports car (there are some people that say it feels like a sports car to them...just hilarious), and even in base form it's as quick in a straight line as my BMW sport sedan from less than a decade ago.

This is a cruiser. It's more than quick enough to merge into traffic even without the performance option.

I don't begrudge anyone who buys it, it's your money, do with it what you will...I just don't get it.

It's faster 0-60 that 98% of vehicles on the road. It's just heavy.

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