Cybertruck Hits 405kW Peak Charge Rate

[SeaGeo]

The issue is they are capped by CCS at the low end. They'd need to do NACS to boost those numbers. I suspect NACS will therefore get you higher peak speeds. Unfortunately, practically all the NACS stations today are superchargers, and while they can do 250kW (and gen2 native NACS might take that), I don't think they'll charge any faster on a v3 supercharger as they already struggle with the current 500A sustained.

CCS allows higher than 500A anymore. Rivian seemingly has chosen not to set the Gen2 vehicles up to allow for more than 500A though, at least as far as they've acknowledged publicly.

For example, EVGo delta chargers will provide 540A, Rivian would setup RAN to provide more than 500A, and the standard was revised to increase the amperage a year or two ago.

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[Thedude]

Nah, I've done 18-55 in 15 minutes at a RAN, onboarding a little over 50kWh, and basically holding 200kW for the full 15min. It really does hold 180kW to about 60%, and under 20% it hits the CCS limits, but 20-55 will generally be over 200kW if you got good temps. When I road trip I usually try to keep it under 60% and that means my stops are all under 20min if the charger cooperates.

I never saw over 200kwh for longer than about five minutes at any charge level. It always tapered off to 150ish and then steadily downward after about 70%.

 

[edman007]

I never saw over 200kwh for longer than about five minutes at any charge level. It always tapered off to 150ish and then steadily downward after about 70%.

I think you just really need a good 250kW+ CCS chargers. This is what I saw once, works out to 196KW average for 16 minutes.

I noticed, at least in the summer, superchargers can't do it, you will always get limited by the station in under 15min

 

[VanCityMike]

I agree it will be nice to have someday, but the charging infrastructure in the US is not even close to being able to accommodate that charging speed so it would be a wasted feature for now. My guess is we are probably 4-5 years from it being a regular thing. Maybe more?

No reason we shouldn’t be installing 350kW chargers today. Even if we can’t supply that to 20 vehicles at one location there are many times when only a handful are charging or have vehicles not capable of high speed (cough Lightning).

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Doesn’t make it look any better, so who cares.

 

[VanCityMike]

Doesn’t make it look any better, so who cares.

Because it’s nice to see EV tech making progress. Some people are too stuck on appearance and can’t see beyond that.

 

[HaveBlue]

That graph indicates 10-80 of about 36 minutes for the CT. Meanwhile our "half" as fast Rivians do it in 42 minutes.
Apparently the Integral of the two charging curves is about 14% bigger on the CT.

 

[SeaGeo]

Because it’s nice to see EV tech making progress. Some people are too stuck on appearance and can’t see beyond that.

That graph indicates 10-80 of about 36 minutes for the CT. Meanwhile our "half" as fast Rivians do it in 42 minutes.
Apparently the Integral of the two charging curves is about 14% bigger on the CT.

The R1 also has a bigger battery so if you adjust accordingly they'd both be at 41 or 42 minutes.

 

[COdogman]

People getting anger at an inanimate object is funny; getting mad that said object has a better tech feature is sad really.

What’s funny is people thinking this “feature” is useful or something to brag about at this point.

 

[DuoRivian]

Nah, I've done 18-55 in 15 minutes at a RAN, onboarding a little over 50kWh, and basically holding 200kW for the full 15min. It really does hold 180kW to about 60%, and under 20% it hits the CCS limits, but 20-55 will generally be over 200kW if you got good temps. When I road trip I usually try to keep it under 60% and that means my stops are all under 20min if the charger cooperates.

Good for you but I haven’t seen it hold over 200kw for 40% charging.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Because it’s nice to see EV tech making progress. Some people are too stuck on appearance and can’t see beyond that.

I'll be excited when our EV battery tech comes anywhere near the fastest charging EVs in China. 123kWh battery for the cybertruck makes this 3.3C for about 10 seconds. Some of the newest EVs there can hold over 5C for almost the entire first half of the battery, and still be putting 350kW into their packs at 80%.

 

[DuoRivian]

I think you just really need a good 250kW+ CCS chargers. This is what I saw once, works out to 196KW average for 16 minutes.

I noticed, at least in the summer, superchargers can't do it, you will always get limited by the station in under 15min

That data shows an average 195kw over the 16 minutes - not exactly holding 220kw throughout!
Agree summer is not the best time.

 

[COdogman]

You’re right; no one would ever want such a feature ever. I guess you hope Rivian never implements any such thing either.

At least your streak of knee jerk commenting on every Tesla mention remains intact ?

I didn't say that either. I guess your streak of misinterpreting every comment possible remains intact.

 

[emoore]

No reason we shouldn’t be installing 350kW chargers today. Even if we can’t supply that to 20 vehicles at one location there are many times when only a handful are charging or have vehicles not capable of high speed (cough Lightning).

That's true for main highways and major cities. Small towns are probably not going to be able to provide that kind of power and we need many many more chargers in rural areas. Highway locations have decent coverage, just need to add more chargers in those locations.

 

[lefkonj]

Not sure what the big deal is, you can always stuff things into a fridge. Just because you put in on wheels doesn't mean it is amazing.

It peaked at 405 then quickly dropped like a stone down to 200 then by minute 12 was in the mid 100s. Lucid and Porsche are more impressive with their flatter charge curves.

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