Autolycus
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LOL. ::Jennifer Lawrence "ok" gif::Musk is the only reason you're even driving an EV. Maybe retract the claws a little.
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LOL. ::Jennifer Lawrence "ok" gif::Musk is the only reason you're even driving an EV. Maybe retract the claws a little.
Agreed. I most admire him being the first to discover fire, circumnavigate the globe and then inventing electricity and modern democracy.Musk is the only reason you're even driving an EV. Maybe retract the claws a little.
Why would we hate blind people? Also Chinese cars already face tariffs.If Chinese EVs land here without US government’s hefty tariffs, the only US auto company remaining will be Tesla. Nobody else has the engineering efficiency and cost structure to compete. It’s time to face the data and facts, and stop the blind hate
That is delusional. Tesla sells less than half of what BYD does and VW is the only other non-Chinese company in the top 10 in China. Tesla would be toast along with everyone else.If Chinese EVs land here without US government’s hefty tariffs, the only US auto company remaining will be Tesla. Nobody else has the engineering efficiency and cost structure to compete. It’s time to face the data and facts, and stop the blind hate
Not sure Tesla would survive that, they are having their own issues trying to hold a small share of the Chinese market that seems to get smaller each year.If Chinese EVs land here without US government’s hefty tariffs, the only US auto company remaining will be Tesla. Nobody else has the engineering efficiency and cost structure to compete. It’s time to face the data and facts, and stop the blind hate
Look who is delusional?That is delusional. Tesla sells less than half of what BYD does and VW is the only other non-Chinese company in the top 10 in China. Tesla would be toast along with everyone else.
You know those are not current numbers, which is probably why you shared a screenshot from a tweet vs. something real. Tesla’s profit per vehicle has slipped to around $4200/ vehicle, which is still best in the world but BYD will achieve the same in the next couple years. BYD is at approx $1750/ vehicle. One company is on the way up and one is headed down.Look who is delusional?
Tell who is likely to survive?
I was trying to stay out of this Musk discussion, but your comment defies common sense. Assuming I understand your comment, you're saying that we don't know the real Elon Musk, all we know is what mainstream media painted?No reason to worship, call consumers cult members, or denigrate a person you only know from the mainstream media.
And those are FACTS!I was trying to stay out of this Musk discussion, but your comment defies common sense. Assuming I understand your comment, you're saying that we don't know the real Elon Musk, all we know is what mainstream media painted?
I used look favorably at Musk. But in the past 3-4 years, he has done so many things that have caused me to lose respect for him. Things that I saw, heard or read directly from him on Twitter/X, Live Streams, etc. Not from mainstream media. He has and continues to do things that are "unbecoming of a CEO" which damage his companies and erodes shareholder confidence. You don't need mainstream media to recognize that.
Btw l am an early investor in BYD, and I believe BYD will be the most dominant “car” manufacturer in the world, and poses the greatest threat to the US auto industry. As of today, Tesla still leads BYD by wide margin in profit margin despite Chinese Government’s heavy subsidies. In China, Tesla still has the highest brand recognition. Having both the Highest profit margin with the highest brand prestige is a very good place to be. Let’s stick to the facts.You know those are not current numbers, which is probably why you shared a screenshot from a tweet vs. something real. Tesla’s profit per vehicle has slipped to around $4200/ vehicle, which is still best in the world but BYD will achieve the same in the next couple years. BYD is at approx $1750/ vehicle. One company is on the way up and one is headed down.
Do you know he has Asperger syndrome and struggles with severe depression, and confessed to taking Ketamine? Do these facts make your feeling about Elon different? I am a retired physician, and perhaps I look at people differently. Judging people without knowing fully will cause many mistakes in life.And those are FACTS!
I think you are correct about BYD, but you are incorrect about Tesla in China. Combining ICE/ EV sales they don’t even appear in the top 10 in sales. This is for Q4 2023:Btw l am an early investor in BYD, and I believe BYD will be the most dominant “car” manufacturer in the world, and poses the greatest threat to the US auto industry. As of today, Tesla still leads BYD by wide margin in profit margin despite Chinese Government’s heavy subsidies. In China, Tesla still has the highest brand recognition. Having both the Highest profit margin with the highest brand prestige is a very good place to be. Let’s stick to the facts.
None of the things you offered as excuses make it ok to behave the way he does. I hire many people with Asperger’s because they are often wonderful with animals and none of them act like he does. He alone is accountable for his behavior.Do you know he has Asperger syndrome and struggles with severe depression, and confessed to taking Ketamine? Do these facts make your feeling about Elon different? I am a retired physician, and perhaps I look at people differently. Judging people without knowing fully will cause many mistakes in life.