Max Pack Info?

[idea man]

I have been able to find almost no info on the Max Pack. I have been looking at the Rivian web site and on here and it just doesn't appear that there is much out there. Is it because Rivian doesn't know yet? Not that they don't know what they are doing. More likely they are hoping for the technology to continue to improve and at some point in the future they will put their stake in the sand and make a decision about what technology they will be using?
What do we know about the Max Pack? If there is a previous post that addresses this, please point me. I did search, but computers are hard and I am simple person of advancing age.

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[crashmtb]

"it's a big box, with lots of little batteries running around inside it, but that's not important right now..."

The max battery is 180kwh and takes up the empty space in the frame that the 135kwh battery doesn't fill.

at least, that's how I think it goes

 

[idea man]

....and it is not available in the R1S, presumable because they did not leave room for all those extra little batteries running around where instead now people are going to be sitting.
I am looking also for information about where they actually are in the process of installing these things in the R1T. 2023 is a long way away and when they talk about Max Pack, they only talk of them going into the Adventure models. Will the Explore models come first because they have fewer parts or do they go last since they cost less?
Here is an 8 month old thread with a lot more specificity about battery packs. Moderately techincal and very interesting, but a little off the mark from a where are we now with these things?
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/battery-cell-pack-specs.1147/
Is this 8 month old information the best we have going forward?

 

[crashmtb]

....and it is not available in the R1S, presumable because they did not leave room for all those extra little batteries running around where instead now people are going to be sitting.
I am looking also for information about where they actually are in the process of installing these things in the R1T. 2023 is a long way away and when they talk about Max Pack, they only talk of them going into the Adventure models. Will the Explore models come first because they have fewer parts or do they go last since they cost less?
Here is an 8 month old thread with a lot more specificity about battery packs. Moderately techincal and very interesting, but a little off the mark from a where are we now with these things?
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/battery-cell-pack-specs.1147/
Is this 8 month old information the best we have going forward.

As far as I can tell nothing has changed WRT battery pack design etc. So there is no new information in that regard. Other than they are now listing the "standard" battery option in their configurator.

I suspect the reason there was less take rate for max pack is becuase of all the people hand-wringing over the tax incentives in the US. Max pack puts a lot of people over the hypothetical limit for that.

Rivian previously was going to build max pack(the most expensive option) first, explore or adventure didn't matter.

But then of course...pandemic and related calamity ensued. So they're building them last. Which makes sense because the extra cells needed to make 3 max pack batteries gets them another large pack.

 

[pc500]

As far as I can tell nothing has changed WRT battery pack design etc. So there is no new information in that regard. Other than they are now listing the "standard" battery option in their configurator.

I suspect the reason there was less take rate for max pack is becuase of all the people hand-wringing over the tax incentives in the US. Max pack puts a lot of people over the hypothetical limit for that.

Rivian previously was going to build max pack(the most expensive option) first, explore or adventure didn't matter.

But then of course...pandemic and related calamity ensued. So they're building them last. Which makes sense because the extra cells needed to make 3 max pack batteries gets them another large pack.

Since the price increases, the tax thing becomes moot for new orders

 

[idea man]

What tax thing? The proposed BBB plan or do particular states have them too?

 

[nfrank]

Rivian is behind the times with a 400V battery on their Large Pack. My guess is that they're delaying the launch of the Max Pack because they need to get up to 800V. The R1T/S charge rates are not good compared to Kia and Lucid. Pure speculation, but I wouldn't want to release a battery pack that's already behind the times.

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