R1T vs Cybertruck size comparison

[CoHAP]

I have been fortunate to own a 2023 R1T quad motor for a little bit over 1 year. I have 19200 miles on it. It has been a dream vehicle and continues to get better with every software update. It has been trouble free except 1 windshield replacement (three rocks chips in 2 weeks), and 2 soft car resets. I do not 4-wheel, but I do camp. I tow a small trailer for work sometimes. I am a contractor and flip houses so I have always used the R1T as a true work/fun vehicle. I am fortunate to be able to charge at home, and I do not miss the LX570 or Q7 I owned in the last 10 years (both amazing cars for their time). I will NEVER own another ICE car for the rest of my life.


Back in 2019 I attempted to place a reservation for a Cybertruck (Attempted for over 2 hour at launch, then went to sleep because I kept getting error messages). The next morning I woke up to five reservations in my email box. I deleted 1, 3, and 4 and kept 2 and 5. My logic was let them work out the kinks out of early reservations, and maybe buy the second reservation and eventually get the fifth reservation to keep. (This is pre-Covid logic) Last week I was able to pick up my AWD Cybertruck. Let me start by saying that, Tesla is not an easy company to love. From their image to their delivery process they are borderline average at best.


The Cybertruck is a marvel of engineering. The 4 wheel steering and drive by wire are a game changer. I will not bore with the details because you can read all that online. For the last week I have been alternating everyday between the two cars to get a feel for them. I am no expert but I have owned my fair share of cars.


Comparing the two trucks: The Cybertruck feels larger inside including the second row. It is also smoother and a tiny bit quieter (35” tires on the cybertruck vs 34” on the Rivian. Both A/T tires). The Rivian has way more storage everywhere except the much smaller bed. The Rivian interior is nicer. The pictures I took are of both cars are on their highest driving (not off road) settings. The Cybertruck looks much larger but that is not the case in real life. It is 8 inches longer and a little bit wider but they both fit in my garage.


The fingerprints on the Cybertruck are real for the first few days, but the body will oxidize and different cleaning product will render this a moot point soon. You will NOT be disappointed with either vehicle. They are both AMAZING. I will be happy to answer any specific comparison questions.

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[RivianRunner]

Can you measure the bed heights in the lowest entry modes? I was cutting firewood last week and was shocked how much easier the Cybertruck was to load vs. my F-150 4x4 with it's higher bed height and pesky wheel well intrusions. Without the wheel wells, the big, heavy firewood rounds just rolled straight in, with no energy-sapping maneuvering around the wheel wells. I was able to fit more rounds in too without the wheel wells messing up the loading pattern:

I ended up with 16 full rounds, one half round and a bunch of splits. I could have fit two more full rounds (if I had more wood available to load), without stacking three high or needing to tie down the load to prevent escape. As it was, I ended up with a total load of a bit over 2100 lbs. It drove like a dream with a heavy load and was super-easy to unload with no wheel wells, the rounds just rolled straight out. My F-150 was so high off the ground (stock) that I would have to climb in the bed to unload. With the low bed height, I was able to roll them out from the ground, using my pickaroon to hook them. Saved a ton of energy over my F-150.

I was able to cut non-stop with my electric saw for the first time ever, by charging one battery with the 120V outlet in the bed. I didn't even need to fire up my gas saw:

Both chainsaws, with gas, oil, batteries, charger, tools, spare bars and chains, and saw cases (one hard, one soft) fit nicely in the frunk with room left over for rigging ropes, tow strap, soft shackles and work gloves:

The large floor in the rear was perfect for all my long-handled tools:

I'm not sure why people say this truck isn't suitable for doing real work, making a direct comparison to my 2010 F-150 SuperCab XLT 4x4 with 6.5 foot bed, there was NO COMPARISON! The Cybertuck just trounced it in every respect. Ease of loading, unloading, payload capacity (my F-150 would have been well over it's rated GVWR), driving dynamics and safety when loaded (night and day difference), ease of getting in/out, tool storage, etc. Cybertruck made this job a lot easier and allowed me to load more wood, more quickly and without tie-downs. Even backing up my steep gravel driveway was drama free. In my F-150 I have to engage 4x4 mode and the nebulous throttle response typically causes a wheel to momentarily break traction and create a little divit in my driveway, no matter how careful I am with throttle control. The electric powertrain is so superior it's not even a fair contest.

ICE trucks are on their way out for most real world work tasks, even before one considers the fuel savings.

 

[RivianRunner]

Can someone provide a R1T tailgate/bed height measurement on level ground when the suspension is in the lowest mode?

 

[RivianRunner]

Can someone provide a R1T tailgate/bed height measurement on level ground when the suspension is in the lowest mode?

Can the Rivian not go into an entry level mode? For loading heavy items? Or no one publishes how low that makes the bed?

 

[RivianRunner]

Can someone provide a R1T tailgate/bed height measurement on level ground when the suspension is in the lowest mode?

I found the measurements to compare bed heights in the lowest modes:

R1T lowest bed height: 34.5"
Cybertruck 32"

It looks like the Cybertruck not only has more ground clearance in the highest mode (16 plus inches in extract mode) but also a lower bed loading height for heavy items like firewood rounds. The R1T has a suspension adjustment range of 6 1/2" while the Cybertruck adjusts a full 8 inches.

I didn't buy the Cybertruck primarily for its looks but, considering how much hate for the aesthetics I've seen shared on this forum, I was surprised how much people like the Cybertruck in real life, when they are standing around checking it out or even when I'm just driving by. People are drawn to it like moths to a light and I get a lot of "nice truck" and "I like your truck" comments. The enthusiasm for the Cybertruck is unreal and I'm surprised how many people like it enough to make really positive comments.

One guy in a beater economy car in a rural area I drive through did flip me off twice as I approached him on two different days, but he looked like a real anti-social weirdo. I think he was hating on life in general.

Coming from a 2010 F-150 XLT 4x4, I'm shocked at how much more maneuverable it is on tight trails. The rear wheel steering and steer by wire supercharges the three-point turn-around! Even though it's only 6 inches shorter overall than my F-150, it turns around on narrow trails like it was 6 feet shorter! And with the Hard Frickin' Steel bodywork, and no clear coat to scratch, I don't hesitate to bury it in the trailside vegetation when turning around. It's really liberating not having to worry about scratches from branches and shrubs, dents and door dings. It makes off-roading a lot more fun to not have to worry.

 

[Ecupip]

I didn't buy the Cybertruck primarily for its looks but, considering how much hate for the aesthetics I've seen shared on this forum, I was surprised how much people like the Cybertruck in real life, when they are standing around checking it out or even when I'm just driving by. People are drawn to it like moths to a light and I get a lot of "nice truck" and "I like your truck" comments. The enthusiasm for the Cybertruck is unreal and I'm surprised how many people like it enough to make really positive comments.

I think people are always excited to see something different and most are genuinely nice, or at least civil to one another whether it be their cup of tea or not. The people who find it compelling to express an unprovoked emotion toward an inanimate object or someone they have never met is a sad person indeed.

 

[RivianRunner]

I think people are always excited to see something different and most are genuinely nice, or at least civil to one another whether it be their cup of tea or not. The people who find it compelling to express an unprovoked emotion toward an inanimate object or someone they have never met is a sad person indeed.

Yup. I don't understand those who have such hate for a truck. When the Hummer H2 gas SUV came out, I thought it was a ridiculous vehicle, but I let the owners live their fantasy in peace.

The thing about the positive Cybertruck comments I get, is they are unprovoked, meaning the people making the positive comments are not on the spot to say anything, they volunteer it. I can tell they really like or love it. Which is weird because they haven't driven one, they haven't off-roaded it, driven it down the highway, taken it on a twisty road (or even heard the stereo!) so they don't even know how good it really is.

The ratio of people who volunteer positive comments vs. those who keep their mouths shut or remain non-committal (or flip me off, lol) is surprisingly high, around 80% unprovoked positivity. That's why I'm surprised at all the negativity here, I would think on a forum for EV truck fans, the positivity for any electric truck would be even higher. Instead, the Cybertruck haters are the most vocal.

I did run into one Rivian owner and his two pre-teen sons checking out my Cybertruck when I came out of a restaurant. I didn't know he was a Rivian owner until we had finished talking and I had demonstrated some features of the Cybertruck and he went three spaces over to get into his Rivian. They seemed very interested in the Cybertruck, but a little reserved. I would put them in the 20% that were non-committal in terms of what they thought of the looks. I demonstrated the damage resistance by giving a very stout kick with the toe of my boot to the center of the door panel. Their eyes widened, but there was no damage.

As he was getting into his Rivian with his two boys, he turned and said, "Don't try kicking my Rivian like that!" I was at a loss for words, that was the first time he had disclosed that he had a Rivian!

 

[Voronbrg]

Got my cyberbeast last week, feels wider than my R1T. Visability is poor compared to the R1T.


CB is faster/more comfortable/better utility than the R1T.

 

[RivianRunner]

Got my cyberbeast last week, feels wider than my R1T.

Cybertruck has a two-and-a-half-inch wider track width vs. the R1T. Pretty substantial.

 

[Noplacelikeloam]

Yup. I don't understand those who have such hate for a truck. When the Hummer H2 gas SUV came out, I thought it was a ridiculous vehicle, but I let the owners live their fantasy in peace.

The thing about the positive Cybertruck comments I get, is they are unprovoked, meaning the people making the positive comments are not on the spot to say anything, they volunteer it. I can tell they really like or love it. Which is weird because they haven't driven one, they haven't off-roaded it, driven it down the highway, taken it on a twisty road (or even heard the stereo!) so they don't even know how good it really is.

The ratio of people who volunteer positive comments vs. those who keep their mouths shut or remain non-committal (or flip me off, lol) is surprisingly high, around 80% unprovoked positivity. That's why I'm surprised at all the negativity here, I would think on a forum for EV truck fans, the positivity for any electric truck would be even higher. Instead, the Cybertruck haters are the most vocal.

I did run into one Rivian owner and his two pre-teen sons checking out my Cybertruck when I came out of a restaurant. I didn't know he was a Rivian owner until we had finished talking and I had demonstrated some features of the Cybertruck and he went three spaces over to get into his Rivian. They seemed very interested in the Cybertruck, but a little reserved. I would put them in the 20% that were non-committal in terms of what they thought of the looks. I demonstrated the damage resistance by giving a very stout kick with the toe of my boot to the center of the door panel. Their eyes widened, but there was no damage.

As he was getting into his Rivian with his two boys, he turned and said, "Don't try kicking my Rivian like that!" I was at a loss for words, that was the first time he had disclosed that he had a Rivian!

Why dont people like it? "Dont meet your hero's" I'm guessing.

Its screams concept car, which the kid in us all loves. But when you start to look around it, you realize why concept cars, even design concepts, all evolve.

I actually lectured on this subject years ago. Design narrative often gets lost as design evolves to accomodate more practical but essential design requirements. The difference between a design great and a quick win is the harmony of those two things. A 911 for instance is just that. Some might say Cybertruck while an outstanding realization of a vision is fundamentally flawed.

You cant argue with those that love it. It is one of the few cars that was fought hard for and it deserves credit for that. Like the Alfa SZ or many other weird and wonderful designs that dont make a lot of sense, its important that it exists.

Just my POV anyway.

 

[RivianRunner]

Why dont people like it? "Dont meet your hero's" I'm guessing.

Its screams concept car, which the kid in us all loves. But when you start to look around it, you realize why concept cars, even design concepts, all evolve.

I actually lectured on this subject years ago. Design narrative often gets lost as design evolves to accomodate more practical but essential design requirements. The difference between a design great and a quick win is the harmony of those two things. A 911 for instance is just that. Some might say Cybertruck while an outstanding realization of a vision is fundamentally flawed.

You cant argue with those that love it. It is one of the few cars that was fought hard for and it deserves credit for that. Like the Alfa SZ or many other weird and wonderful designs that dont make a lot of sense, its important that it exists.

Just my POV anyway.

I think you are missing the picture. It's just a truck. A machine to get a job done, to transport people in comfort over roads, trails and landscapes, the looks are really not important. Not everyone associates their personal identity with what their truck looks like. I have a number of cars I can chose to drive but I find myself driving the truck because it has such a nice ride, the stereo sounds so good, and its so easy to use. I miss the FSD my other cars have (the Cybertruck doesn't have FSD yet) but I still take the truck because it's a superior drive. It's like a magic carpet.

The people who love the Cybertruck the most, know it the best. They love it because it's a superior truck, with a superior driving experience, not because it looks like a spaceship. When it comes to trucks, looks have always been secondary to function.

 

[KootenayEV]

I think you are missing the picture. It's just a truck. A machine to get a job done, to transport people in comfort over roads, trails and landscapes, the looks are really not important. Not everyone associates their personal identity with what their truck looks like. I have a number of cars I can chose to drive but I find myself driving the truck because it has such a nice ride, the stereo sounds so good, and its so easy to use. I miss the FSD my other cars have (the Cybertruck doesn't have FSD yet) but I still take the truck because it's a superior drive. It's like a magic carpet.

The people who love the Cybertruck the most, know it the best. They love it because it's a superior truck, with a superior driving experience, not because it looks like a spaceship. When it comes to trucks, looks have always been secondary to function.

Too bad Tesla forgot the "function" part for their "truck". All it is doing is encouraging Tesla die-hards to buy a bigger vehicle than they actually need.

 

[Noplacelikeloam]

I think you are missing the picture. It's just a truck. A machine to get a job done, to transport people in comfort over roads, trails and landscapes, the looks are really not important. Not everyone associates their personal identity with what their truck looks like. I have a number of cars I can chose to drive but I find myself driving the truck because it has such a nice ride, the stereo sounds so good, and its so easy to use. I miss the FSD my other cars have (the Cybertruck doesn't have FSD yet) but I still take the truck because it's a superior drive. It's like a magic carpet.

The people who love the Cybertruck the most, know it the best. They love it because it's a superior truck, with a superior driving experience, not because it looks like a spaceship. When it comes to trucks, looks have always been secondary to function.

I wouldn't go so far as proposing most people identify their personality with an object but I can confirm aesthetics play a strong part to human decision making, some less than others, but its there nonetheless.

If most people bought it for its superior driving experience, how do you explain them buying it sight unseen with no test drive.

 

[Robin]

Can you measure the bed heights in the lowest entry modes? I was cutting firewood last week and was shocked how much easier the Cybertruck was to load vs. my F-150 4x4 with it's higher bed height and pesky wheel well intrusions. Without the wheel wells, the big, heavy firewood rounds just rolled straight in, with no energy-sapping maneuvering around the wheel wells. I was able to fit more rounds in too without the wheel wells messing up the loading pattern:

I ended up with 16 full rounds, one half round and a bunch of splits. I could have fit two more full rounds (if I had more wood available to load), without stacking three high or needing to tie down the load to prevent escape. As it was, I ended up with a total load of a bit over 2100 lbs. It drove like a dream with a heavy load and was super-easy to unload with no wheel wells, the rounds just rolled straight out. My F-150 was so high off the ground (stock) that I would have to climb in the bed to unload. With the low bed height, I was able to roll them out from the ground, using my pickaroon to hook them. Saved a ton of energy over my F-150.

I was able to cut non-stop with my electric saw for the first time ever, by charging one battery with the 120V outlet in the bed. I didn't even need to fire up my gas saw:

Both chainsaws, with gas, oil, batteries, charger, tools, spare bars and chains, and saw cases (one hard, one soft) fit nicely in the frunk with room left over for rigging ropes, tow strap, soft shackles and work gloves:

The large floor in the rear was perfect for all my long-handled tools:

I'm not sure why people say this truck isn't suitable for doing real work, making a direct comparison to my 2010 F-150 SuperCab XLT 4x4 with 6.5 foot bed, there was NO COMPARISON! The Cybertuck just trounced it in every respect. Ease of loading, unloading, payload capacity (my F-150 would have been well over it's rated GVWR), driving dynamics and safety when loaded (night and day difference), ease of getting in/out, tool storage, etc. Cybertruck made this job a lot easier and allowed me to load more wood, more quickly and without tie-downs. Even backing up my steep gravel driveway was drama free. In my F-150 I have to engage 4x4 mode and the nebulous throttle response typically causes a wheel to momentarily break traction and create a little divit in my driveway, no matter how careful I am with throttle control. The electric powertrain is so superior it's not even a fair contest.

ICE trucks are on their way out for most real world work tasks, even before one considers the fuel savings.

Wow, a real Cybertruck doing truck ? stuff. ????

 

[RivianRunner]

Too bad Tesla forgot the "function" part for their "truck". All it is doing is encouraging Tesla die-hards to buy a bigger vehicle than they actually need.

We bought an electric truck to replace our gas truck. The Cybertruck is easier to load/unload without wheel wells and a lower bed height (31 inches in Entry Mode vs. 37" for our F-150 4x4):

It's not too big, but I did max out its rated capacity of 2500 lbs. with two loads I've hauled so far. I had to drive down a steep, torn up 10% grade that was pretty rugged and the Cybertruck drove down the rugged section almost like it had no payload at all. I could barely tell there was a load back there. My F-150 would have been totally sacked out and the safety/driving dynamics in the toilet.

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