R1T vs Cybertruck size comparison

[RivianRunner]

I wouldn't go so far as proposing most people identify their personality with an object but I can confirm aesthetics play a strong part to human decision making, some less than others, but its there nonetheless.

If most people bought it for its superior driving experience, how do you explain them buying it sight unseen with no test drive.

I knew it would have great driving dynamics with its rigid chassis, 4-wheel independent suspension with long moment arms, four-wheel steering, and active hydraulic dampers, but it's even better than I imagined. I was a little nervous about steering feedback with the steer by wire system, but Tesla nailed it. It's a game changer to be able to steer around the worst hazards so easily and to only have the desirable feedback come through the steering wheel. When you are off-road, the last thing you want is for the steering wheel to get jerked out of your hands. Steer by wire allows a lighter grip on the wheel. I thought the Model 3 Performance had telepathic steering, but this steer-by-wire takes it to another level.

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[RivianRunner]

Too bad Tesla forgot the "function" part for their "truck". All it is doing is encouraging Tesla die-hards to buy a bigger vehicle than they actually need.

The functionality of the Cybertruck is off-the-charts! I've used trucks my entire life for various jobs and none of them approached the ease of use of the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck makes loading and unloading far easier than any other truck. And once you are sweaty and loaded up, it's super easy to drive.

I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said Tesla forgot the "function" part for their "truck" but, if you were talking about off-road ride and ability, you would be wrong again. With up to 16" of ground clearance, front and rear locking differentials, and four-wheel-steering, it makes easy work of rugged terrain and road washouts.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the point you are trying to make but it just comes across as irrational Tesla hate and extreme brand jingoism. Or perhaps you're just not familiar with what the Cybertruck is actually like to use and drive, whether you are playing or getting real work done.

 

[FUBAR!]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the point you are trying to make but it just comes across as irrational Tesla hate and extreme brand jingoism. Or perhaps you're just not familiar with what the Cybertruck is actually like to use and drive, whether you are playing or getting real work done.

You are on a Rivian Forum…I always love how people boasting about a competitor are flabbergasted when someone posts something negative about their post…

rabble rousers being rabble rousers smh

 

[RivianRunner]

You are on a Rivian Forum…I always love how people boasting about a competitor are flabbergasted when someone posts something negative about their post…

rabble rousers being rabble rousers smh

I have no problem with a healthy exchange of ideas, even those that disagree with mine.

The problem was the false claims about permanent bug damage to the stainless-steel panels. We don't need old wives tales that have no basis in reality.

 

[KootenayEV]

The functionality of the Cybertruck is off-the-charts! I've used trucks my entire life for various jobs and none of them approached the ease of use of the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck makes loading and unloading far easier than any other truck. And once you are sweaty and loaded up, it's super easy to drive.

I'm not sure what you were referring to when you said Tesla forgot the "function" part for their "truck" but, if you were talking about off-road ride and ability, you would be wrong again. With up to 16" of ground clearance, front and rear locking differentials, and four-wheel-steering, it makes easy work of rugged terrain and road washouts.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the point you are trying to make but it just comes across as irrational Tesla hate and extreme brand jingoism. Or perhaps you're just not familiar with what the Cybertruck is actually like to use and drive, whether you are playing or getting real work done.

Look, it's great the truck is working out for you. As always, YMMV. It wouldn't work for me though - the R1T is far better for what I do.

 

[RivianRunner]

Look, it's great the truck is working out for you. As always, YMMV. It wouldn't work for me though - the R1T is far better for what I do.

I'm obviously not trying to tell you which truck is better for you. I'm trying to understand why you said Tesla forgot the "function" part of their truck and that is encouraging Tesla fans to buy a bigger vehicle than they need.

On its surface, it's a senseless statement. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but it appears to be a meaningless jab at Tesla, just to say something negative, even if it doesn't make any sense.

 

[Olsonsolar]

Can you measure the bed heights in the lowest entry modes? I was cutting firewood last week and was shocked how much easier the Cybertruck was to load vs. my F-150 4x4 with it's higher bed height and pesky wheel well intrusions. Without the wheel wells, the big, heavy firewood rounds just rolled straight in, with no energy-sapping maneuvering around the wheel wells. I was able to fit more rounds in too without the wheel wells messing up the loading pattern:

I ended up with 16 full rounds, one half round and a bunch of splits. I could have fit two more full rounds (if I had more wood available to load), without stacking three high or needing to tie down the load to prevent escape. As it was, I ended up with a total load of a bit over 2100 lbs. It drove like a dream with a heavy load and was super-easy to unload with no wheel wells, the rounds just rolled straight out. My F-150 was so high off the ground (stock) that I would have to climb in the bed to unload. With the low bed height, I was able to roll them out from the ground, using my pickaroon to hook them. Saved a ton of energy over my F-150.

I was able to cut non-stop with my electric saw for the first time ever, by charging one battery with the 120V outlet in the bed. I didn't even need to fire up my gas saw:

Both chainsaws, with gas, oil, batteries, charger, tools, spare bars and chains, and saw cases (one hard, one soft) fit nicely in the frunk with room left over for rigging ropes, tow strap, soft shackles and work gloves:

The large floor in the rear was perfect for all my long-handled tools:

I'm not sure why people say this truck isn't suitable for doing real work, making a direct comparison to my 2010 F-150 SuperCab XLT 4x4 with 6.5 foot bed, there was NO COMPARISON! The Cybertuck just trounced it in every respect. Ease of loading, unloading, payload capacity (my F-150 would have been well over it's rated GVWR), driving dynamics and safety when loaded (night and day difference), ease of getting in/out, tool storage, etc. Cybertruck made this job a lot easier and allowed me to load more wood, more quickly and without tie-downs. Even backing up my steep gravel driveway was drama free. In my F-150 I have to engage 4x4 mode and the nebulous throttle response typically causes a wheel to momentarily break traction and create a little divit in my driveway, no matter how careful I am with throttle control. The electric powertrain is so superior it's not even a fair contest.

ICE trucks are on their way out for most real world work tasks, even before one considers the fuel savings.

Can you say what brand and model of electric chainsaw you have? I have been looking for some time and can't decide. I have had awesome luck with my gas Stihl equipment so leaning that way. Great thread, first time I have actually saw real world pictures of a CT.

 

[CoHAP]

Most people praise Tesla for their advance UI. Here is my subjective impression after 1200 miles with the Cybertruck. and 20K miles on the R1T. The R1T was my first electric vehicle and I have never owned a Tesla. These two trucks have much in common, but different people may find that one works better for them than the other.

1- The little steering wheel scroll buttons are infuriating and not as good as the Rivian.
2- The Tesla has far more customization but does not feel as polished as the Rivian.
3- Regenerative breaking is way more responsive/faster and customizable in the Rivian.
4- Simple options such as cruise control are overly complicated on the Tesla
5- The Rivian service center was way more accommodating and professional compared to Tesla.
6- No HomeLink garage opener option available. (Paid subscription required to use myQ)
7-The Cybertruck steering and suspension are superior to the Rivian. (parking and maneuverability are a breeze)
8- Lock and unlock function works better in the Tesla.
9- The Tesla is quiet (with AT tires on both) and 20K miles on the Rivian.
10- The biggest issue for me is storage. Yes the Cybertruck is way bigger but the lack of storage compartments makes it feel less usable. It feels like a w/t base model truck.
11- The stainless steel toughness is incredible and one of the main reasons I use the Cybertruck for work.

 

[KootenayEV]

I'm obviously not trying to tell you which truck is better for you. I'm trying to understand why you said Tesla forgot the "function" part of their truck and that is encouraging Tesla fans to buy a bigger vehicle than they need.

On its surface, it's a senseless statement. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but it appears to be a meaningless jab at Tesla, just to say something negative, even if it doesn't make any sense.

You can find all sorts of posts on Twitter and Insta showing people with a few bags of soil saying they are doing "truck stuff" - I did the same thing in my Model 3 - that is the point I was making about 'bigger vehicle'. But let's leave that alone - I recognize I'm in the minority in society in thinking that vehicles have become oversized for the actual uses they are put to.

In a separate thread, I did put a pretty detailed account of why I prefer my Rivian to any Tesla, you can read it here if you'd like.

As far as truck-specific goes:

R1T pros:
- carrying a spare tire doesn't require space in the bed
- I can reach into the side of the bed from the ground
- further, I can open the Gear Tunnel door and stand on that to step into the truck box from the side
- the sides of the box are flat and I can walk along them to access things
- the sides of the box are level and have mount points for racks
- the roof has level mount points for roof racks
- I can stand on the GT door to access the ski box on my roof rack (or other items, like paddle boards)
- I can easily carry long things on my truck, like a canoe/SUP
- better visualization on rear screen monitor for backing up (ie the lines)
- better charge port location for towing
- larger battery for longer range while towing
- more efficient so better range overall
- better charging curve (with the CT, you need to drive very low SOC to maximize charge curve, which majority of people won't do)
- the doors have handles (ie easier to open)
- functional wipers
- frunk is larger
- there is more clean and water-proof covered storage (the CT puts all its eggs in the "Vault" basket)
- between the GT and frunk, I have far more covered storage than the CT when I have stuff in the bed like bikes (which for my family is often)
- I can reach items on the dash
- I can wash the interior of the windshield without special tools
- I prefer stalks and some key buttons (see my link to other post above)
- the traction control modes are currently thought to be better
- the driving dynamics can be changed significantly due to the suspension technology, so it's like having a few vehicles in one (even after 9 months it is still mind-blowing to me how much its character can be changed by a drive mode)
- I'm not worried about denting my bike frames by carrying them over the tailgate
- Built-in air compressor and hose storage
- outward visibility (e.g. A pillars, rear view mirror)
- camera to monitor the bed contents and towed loads
- built-in lock for bikes (or other gear in the bed)

CT pros:
- possibly rear-wheel steering, although from what I've read is that so far the CT has the same turning circle as the R1T, though that may change if Tesla re-programs to allow further turning of the rear-wheels
- bumper to allow stepping into back of bed, or standing and reaching in, with tailgate closed (though I'm not sure if the rearward slant of the tailgate allows for that on the CT like it does on other trucks?)
- locking differential(s)
- dent-resistant body panels (but this could have been done without the triangle shape)
- the rear seats fold out of the way better
- for some people, 240V power in the bed is useful (I originally thought this would be something I really wanted, but our trailer runs fine off the household outlet in my R1T, and we haven't, nor intend to, visited places we need A/C in our trailer)

Things both do well:
- lower load floor than any other truck (the Lightning is actually quite high)
- lower reach-over height at tailgate than any other truck (the caveat here is for 'modern' trucks; trucks from the 90's were often similar to this and more easily loaded than a new F150)
- both provide basic power export options

Things I'm not sure about:
- a lot has been made about 'drive by wire' in the CT, but I can't decide if that is a pro or con, or a wash. It is certainly interesting from a technological stand-point.
- both are missing some of the more sophisticated towing/payload functionality of the Lightning (though Rivian caught up to an extent with the big towing update late last year)
- the finish on the CT seems more finicky to maintain than paint, but the R1T has softer body panels - not sure which in practice would bother me or not
- the air suspension allows some pros for both (e.g. adjustable ride height), but long-term I wonder about the reliability compared to springs
- pedestrian safety (and other vehicles for that matter) for the CT; we have a real issue in North America with overly large vehicles with bad sight lines - tall pick-ups with long hoods that make it easy for parents to inadvertently run over their kids being one example. In the CT, they exacerbate the issue with all the sharp edges. As an avid cyclist, I really don't want to be hit by any vehicle, but I really don't want to be hit by something with such hard angles and non-deflecting panels.

Final thoughts:
Like many people who have followed Tesla since the beginning, and have owned one of their products for several years, I am frustrated by some of the design decisions and company direction. I think they could have made a better truck if they hadn't shoe-horned themselves into a particular material and shape. I think they could have made a car for the masses sooner and faster if they weren't trying to reinvent everything all the time (see CT above, door closures, 48V) which take away resources (time, money, etc).

Ultimately I think Tesla pushed EVs mainstream faster, and with the SC network showed how it can/should be done, but I feel they can do more.

Meanwhile, Rivian spent a huge amount of time thinking about what people use their vehicles for while "adventuring" and for everyday life, and it really shows in the design and functionality. Yeah they missed a few key things and the truck is overly complicated, so they aren't perfect either, but on balance I feel the R1T is a better product.

 

[Kidentist]

I had a reservation for a Cybertruck.....(newer one, placed December last year), but I am certain it would be years before I saw one available to me. Yes, it's not everyone's cup-of-tea (I even made a joke on a previous post), but some of the features are out of this world. Having said that, I would not rule one out in the future.

 

[RivianRunner]

Can you say what brand and model of electric chainsaw you have? I have been looking for some time and can't decide. I have had awesome luck with my gas Stihl equipment so leaning that way. Great thread, first time I have actually saw real world pictures of a CT.

Yes. I'm a huge, lifetime Stihl fan boy. I still have two gas Stihls that I cannot get rid of, they are sweet saws in terms of balance, useability and reliability. But I'm only a fan because the products are so good, not because they are Stihl brand. So, when I was looking for an electric saw, I didn't let the fact that I was a Stihl fanboy influence my decision. I researched long and hard.

My first was a Milwaukee M12 Hatchet, with a cute little 5" bar and chain. It's really good for what it is, it's easy to use one handed. Then I bought a Dewalt battery electric chainsaw with a 16" bar. It sucks. I made a mistake because I already had a couple batteries for another DeWalt product that my wife had purchased. It was a dumb decision to base it on that.

I've looked at the battery-electric Stihls, but I'm not convinced their excellence in gas saws translates to their battery electric saws. I bought a Husqvarna Power Axe 350i. The worst thing the reviews I read had to say about this saw was the included charger is not the fast-charger. So I bought a Husqvarna blower that came with another battery and a fast charger. So now I have two batteries and a fast charger and a slow charger for use at home. The blower kicks ass too.

Husqvarna also has an older pro-grade battery electric saw (540i XP) that has a good reputation, but I took a chance and went with their newer 350i for a lot less money. I'm still trying to find a user who has both and can compare their relative merits but I believe the 350i has a better power to weight ratio and better runtimes. I just don't have enough to go on to be sure. If I had to buy another saw, knowing only what I know now, I would still buy the 350i (but I'm still trying to determine which is the better saw). If you want to use a 350i continuously, by charging off your truck, make sure you get their fastest charger and two batteries (or the slow charger and three batteries).

Now, I'm a battery electric Husqvarna fan boy (but if I were to buy a new gas saw, I would still get a Stihl). But that's not happening, the electrics are just too good.

 

[RivianRunner]

I had a reservation for a Cybertruck.....(newer one, placed December last year), but I am certain it would be years before I saw one available to me. Yes, it's not everyone's cup-of-tea (I even made a joke on a previous post), but some of the features are out of this world. Having said that, I would not rule one out in the future.

I'm sure you would not be disappointed; it would surpass your expectations by a lot. It's a much better product than the product everyone seems to be talking about. Of course, I don't buy my trucks for how they look, it's how they drive and function that matters to me. I do need to like the cabin environment, and the Cybertruck doesn't disappoint in that respect. It's a wonderful place to spend time.

 

[RivianRunner]

You can find all sorts of posts on Twitter and Insta showing people with a few bags of soil saying they are doing "truck stuff" - I did the same thing in my Model 3 - that is the point I was making about 'bigger vehicle'. But let's leave that alone - I recognize I'm in the minority in society in thinking that vehicles have become oversized for the actual uses they are put to.

In a separate thread, I did put a pretty detailed account of why I prefer my Rivian to any Tesla, you can read it here if you'd like.

As far as truck-specific goes:

R1T pros:
- carrying a spare tire doesn't require space in the bed
- I can reach into the side of the bed from the ground
- further, I can open the Gear Tunnel door and stand on that to step into the truck box from the side
- the sides of the box are flat and I can walk along them to access things
- the sides of the box are level and have mount points for racks
- the roof has level mount points for roof racks
- I can stand on the GT door to access the ski box on my roof rack (or other items, like paddle boards)
- I can easily carry long things on my truck, like a canoe/SUP
- better visualization on rear screen monitor for backing up (ie the lines)
- better charge port location for towing
- larger battery for longer range while towing
- more efficient so better range overall
- better charging curve (with the CT, you need to drive very low SOC to maximize charge curve, which majority of people won't do)
- the doors have handles (ie easier to open)
- functional wipers
- frunk is larger
- there is more clean and water-proof covered storage (the CT puts all its eggs in the "Vault" basket)
- between the GT and frunk, I have far more covered storage than the CT when I have stuff in the bed like bikes (which for my family is often)
- I can reach items on the dash
- I can wash the interior of the windshield without special tools
- I prefer stalks and some key buttons (see my link to other post above)
- the traction control modes are currently thought to be better
- the driving dynamics can be changed significantly due to the suspension technology, so it's like having a few vehicles in one (even after 9 months it is still mind-blowing to me how much its character can be changed by a drive mode)
- I'm not worried about denting my bike frames by carrying them over the tailgate
- Built-in air compressor and hose storage
- outward visibility (e.g. A pillars, rear view mirror)
- camera to monitor the bed contents and towed loads
- built-in lock for bikes (or other gear in the bed)

CT pros:
- possibly rear-wheel steering, although from what I've read is that so far the CT has the same turning circle as the R1T, though that may change if Tesla re-programs to allow further turning of the rear-wheels
- bumper to allow stepping into back of bed, or standing and reaching in, with tailgate closed (though I'm not sure if the rearward slant of the tailgate allows for that on the CT like it does on other trucks?)
- locking differential(s)
- dent-resistant body panels (but this could have been done without the triangle shape)
- the rear seats fold out of the way better
- for some people, 240V power in the bed is useful (I originally thought this would be something I really wanted, but our trailer runs fine off the household outlet in my R1T, and we haven't, nor intend to, visited places we need A/C in our trailer)

Things both do well:
- lower load floor than any other truck (the Lightning is actually quite high)
- lower reach-over height at tailgate than any other truck (the caveat here is for 'modern' trucks; trucks from the 90's were often similar to this and more easily loaded than a new F150)
- both provide basic power export options

Things I'm not sure about:
- a lot has been made about 'drive by wire' in the CT, but I can't decide if that is a pro or con, or a wash. It is certainly interesting from a technological stand-point.
- both are missing some of the more sophisticated towing/payload functionality of the Lightning (though Rivian caught up to an extent with the big towing update late last year)
- the finish on the CT seems more finicky to maintain than paint, but the R1T has softer body panels - not sure which in practice would bother me or not
- the air suspension allows some pros for both (e.g. adjustable ride height), but long-term I wonder about the reliability compared to springs
- pedestrian safety (and other vehicles for that matter) for the CT; we have a real issue in North America with overly large vehicles with bad sight lines - tall pick-ups with long hoods that make it easy for parents to inadvertently run over their kids being one example. In the CT, they exacerbate the issue with all the sharp edges. As an avid cyclist, I really don't want to be hit by any vehicle, but I really don't want to be hit by something with such hard angles and non-deflecting panels.

Final thoughts:
Like many people who have followed Tesla since the beginning, and have owned one of their products for several years, I am frustrated by some of the design decisions and company direction. I think they could have made a better truck if they hadn't shoe-horned themselves into a particular material and shape. I think they could have made a car for the masses sooner and faster if they weren't trying to reinvent everything all the time (see CT above, door closures, 48V) which take away resources (time, money, etc).

Ultimately I think Tesla pushed EVs mainstream faster, and with the SC network showed how it can/should be done, but I feel they can do more.

Meanwhile, Rivian spent a huge amount of time thinking about what people use their vehicles for while "adventuring" and for everyday life, and it really shows in the design and functionality. Yeah they missed a few key things and the truck is overly complicated, so they aren't perfect either, but on balance I feel the R1T is a better product.

Wow! You sure are overthinking this!

I'm not going to go through and address all your misconceptions, but the Cybertruck is already far more maneuverable than the R1T, and it's not just the tighter turning circle (2.5 feet tighter). The rear-wheel steering is more than just a tighter turning circle, it supercharges three-point turns by acting in reverse too. Coupled with the tight steer-by-wire action, it's a night/day difference in putting the truck right where you want it in tight spots (like turning around off-road and having the rear wheel more closely follow the front wheels when using large steering angles).

No, the steel panels are not fussy to maintain, they are the exact opposite of that. You have been watching too many YouTube videos made by prissy people who have never owned a truck. The exterior of the truck is super easy to keep looking nice. I just use soap and water and a long-handled truck washing brush. Way less fussy than my F-150 (and no worries about scratching the clearcoat).

Driving dynamics: R1T has good driving dynamics and ride quality. The Cybertruck crushes it on both metrics.

You have so many misconceptions about the Cybertruck I don't have time to address them all. Just know that it has a lot more truck functionality than the R1T in so many ways you can't even compare them on this point. Yes, size matters.

 

[Olsonsolar]

Yes. I'm a huge, lifetime Stihl fan boy. I still have two gas Stihls that I cannot get rid of, they are sweet saws in terms of balance, useability and reliability. But I'm only a fan because the products are so good, not because they are Stihl brand. So, when I was looking for an electric saw, I didn't let the fact that I was a Stihl fanboy influence my decision. I researched long and hard.

My first was a Milwaukee M12 Hatchet, with a cute little 5" bar and chain. It's really good for what it is, it's easy to use one handed. Then I bought a Dewalt battery electric chainsaw with a 16" bar. It sucks. I made a mistake because I already had a couple batteries for another DeWalt product that my wife had purchased. It was a dumb decision to base it on that.

I've looked at the battery-electric Stihls, but I'm not convinced their excellence in gas saws translates to their battery electric saws. I bought a Husqvarna Power Axe 350i. The worst thing the reviews I read had to say about this saw was the included charger is not the fast-charger. So I bought a Husqvarna blower that came with another battery and a fast charger. So now I have two batteries and a fast charger and a slow charger for use at home. The blower kicks ass too.

Husqvarna also has an older pro-grade battery electric saw (540i XP) that has a good reputation, but I took a chance and went with their newer 350i for a lot less money. I'm still trying to find a user who has both and can compare their relative merits but I believe the 350i has a better power to weight ratio and better runtimes. I just don't have enough to go on to be sure. If I had to buy another saw, knowing only what I know now, I would still buy the 350i (but I'm still trying to determine which is the better saw). If you want to use a 350i continuously, by charging off your truck, make sure you get their fastest charger and two batteries (or the slow charger and three batteries).

Now, I'm a battery electric Husqvarna fan boy (but if I were to buy a new gas saw, I would still get a Stihl). But that's not happening, the electrics are just too good.

Thank for the info man. I will check them out.

 

[Lrak1973]

I have been fortunate to own a 2023 R1T quad motor for a little bit over 1 year. I have 19200 miles on it. It has been a dream vehicle and continues to get better with every software update. It has been trouble free except 1 windshield replacement (three rocks chips in 2 weeks), and 2 soft car resets. I do not 4-wheel, but I do camp. I tow a small trailer for work sometimes. I am a contractor and flip houses so I have always used the R1T as a true work/fun vehicle. I am fortunate to be able to charge at home, and I do not miss the LX570 or Q7 I owned in the last 10 years (both amazing cars for their time). I will NEVER own another ICE car for the rest of my life.


Back in 2019 I attempted to place a reservation for a Cybertruck (Attempted for over 2 hour at launch, then went to sleep because I kept getting error messages). The next morning I woke up to five reservations in my email box. I deleted 1, 3, and 4 and kept 2 and 5. My logic was let them work out the kinks out of early reservations, and maybe buy the second reservation and eventually get the fifth reservation to keep. (This is pre-Covid logic) Last week I was able to pick up my AWD Cybertruck. Let me start by saying that, Tesla is not an easy company to love. From their image to their delivery process they are borderline average at best.


The Cybertruck is a marvel of engineering. The 4 wheel steering and drive by wire are a game changer. I will not bore with the details because you can read all that online. For the last week I have been alternating everyday between the two cars to get a feel for them. I am no expert but I have owned my fair share of cars.


Comparing the two trucks: The Cybertruck feels larger inside including the second row. It is also smoother and a tiny bit quieter (35” tires on the cybertruck vs 34” on the Rivian. Both A/T tires). The Rivian has way more storage everywhere except the much smaller bed. The Rivian interior is nicer. The pictures I took are of both cars are on their highest driving (not off road) settings. The Cybertruck looks much larger but that is not the case in real life. It is 8 inches longer and a little bit wider but they both fit in my garage.


The fingerprints on the Cybertruck are real for the first few days, but the body will oxidize and different cleaning product will render this a moot point soon. You will NOT be disappointed with either vehicle. They are both AMAZING. I will be happy to answer any specific comparison questions.

Was that your Cybertruck out at Long Lake Sports fields in Arvada last weekend, by any chance? it was definitely interesting to see one in the soccer parking lot!

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