R3 Reveal Shocks!!! ?

[R1TruKaLa]

I like the R3 fine. It's sort of retro. I'm not sure I would go for it. One thing nobody has mentioned is the windows don't appear to have frames.

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[Epicloop]

I don't get any Lada vibes or any other 2dr vibes but I am getting some very strong Rabbit/Golf on steroids vibes which should prove positive for sales as that this is one iconic car that sold around 500K a year for a couple decades.

 

[Epicloop]

Why not make the R3X with the quad motors they currently have available and use if this is their more performance oriented version. IMO, they should also offer this configuration on the R2's as well. Some of us would surely pay for the performance it'd be capable of.

The reason is they are too expensive, and likely too large/heavy. I'm sure the tri-motor versions will already be insane.

3 Enduro = ~900 hp

DM-P 665hp/2=332.5hp x 3=998HP

I think Rivian should produce R1S without a third row and decrease cost to consumer by 5K. The R3 adds nothing to the Rivian lineup

I highly doubt removing the 3rd row sat will save 5K. The R3 is going to be the hottest selling model mark my words.

I thought I'd seen somewhere that they were getting up to 330 hp out of the Enduro

DM-P 333HP per motor

 

[godfodder0901]

I thought I'd seen somewhere that they were getting up to 330 hp out of the Enduro, so it would be closer to 1000hp

The reason is they are too expensive, and likely too large/heavy. I'm sure the tri-motor versions will already be insane.

DM-P 665hp/2=332.5hp x 3=998HP

DM-P 333HP per motor

I hadn't seen/done the math; I was being it off of memory from an early interview with RJ, so thank you both for the assist! I think the main point here is that that tri-motor R2 and R3X will freaking RIP!

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

I hadn't seen/done the math; I was being it off of memory from an early interview with RJ, so thank you both for the assist! I think the main point here is that that tri-motor R2 and R3X will freaking RIP!

Everyone is talking about the R3X because it was a complete shock, but the point about the R2 is important. You're going to have a 1000hp vehicle that is both signficantly lighter and likely more stable than the R1S and R1T. It's going to be an absolute beast.

 

[Epicloop]

Everyone is talking about the R3X because it was a complete shock, but the point about the R2 is important. You're going to have a 1000hp vehicle that is both signficantly lighter and likely more stable than the R1S and R1T. It's going to be an absolute beast.

Sounds like many are assuming they will use the existing Enduro motors.
I highly doubt it will be 333/665/1000hp
vehicle.
i think they will make a less costly, smaller/lighter/more efficient 225-250HP motor to go with the smaller platform.

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

Sounds like many are assuming they will use the existing Enduro motors.
I highly doubt it will be 333/665/1000hp
vehicle.
i think they will make a less costly, smaller/lighter/more efficient 225-250HP motor to go with the smaller platform.

I'm not sure that fits with their profitability model of shared parts across the entire platform. The EDV uses the same motors in spite of significantly lower requirements for power. Much more likely IMO that they use electronic limiting of the motor output for lower trim models.

 

[R1TS]

The QM and highest performing version of most vehicles aren't the "most people" versions. They are the high margin variants meant for those who value the added performance/luxury, etc... and will pay a premium for it. Think GT3 911....Z06 Corvette...Raptor F150....Etc... all models "most people" don't end up purchasing....but highly profitable for the manufacturers.

For Rivian, the “performance” quad with the highest price isn’t even their highest margin vehicle in the current lineup, haha.

 

[Epicloop]

The EDV uses the same motors in spite of significantly lower requirements for power

The EDV is a huge vehicle with a large payload requirement that is only using 1 motor, big difference.
I just don't see the tri motor R2/R3 having 1000hp.
The R2/R3 is a shared platform that is not the same as the existing offerings.
Time will tell but I just don't see the need for the more costly (more materials) less efficient unnecessarily large/heavier motors.
No one needs a 4500lbs compact car.

 

[R1Tom]

For Rivian, the “performance” quad with the highest price isn’t even their highest margin vehicle in the current lineup, haha.

Only because Rivian plan was to come out blazing with the top spec product....the QM. Over deliver mentality. Impress the press. Put a compelling price on it.

Then later introduce something they could make cheaper...the DM....and don't reduce the price nearly as much as the savings to make it.

Good strategy for a first go at a market.

 

[Florida Panhandler]

I agree that Rivian likely will introduce smaller ,less powerful motors for the R3 and probably the R2 as well. They will engineer them to cut costs down with less material cost And weight savings. It is possible power delivery is dialed down to 200hp or so per motor, but we’ll see.

 

[Epicloop]

It’s real

I guess the Honda Prologue is a competitor?
Only 288hp and a measly 1500lb towing capacity if that matters.

 

[DRJ564]

Imagine if Rivian went with the Shelby name instead of X… hmmmm. The GLH-S. It even had aero wheels and some Bosch components.

 

[RivianInCharleston]

As I'm sitting here completing my typical weekend routine of doing absolutely nothing, something dawned on me.

The brilliance of the R3 is that it is the first EV that I can recall that doesn't look like you just stepped out of a time-traveling DeLorean 30 years in the future.

In fact, it's unapoletically, let's not say retro, perhaps rooted in car mythology. No EV has done that so far.

It's a brilliant play. I'd been saying for a while that I want an EV that's entire hook is not futurism. The F-150 Lightening has been the closest so far. R1S and R1T are close, but still leverage futurism along with adventure, plus cost a bit more than I'm willing to spend.

The R3 line just looks like good old affordable fun that doesn't scream EV first. That's a population of one right now.

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