The current government appears to believe that taxpayer subsidies should go to fossil-fuel industry companies, not consumers.
I’ve stated this myself in other threads. Since virtually every major auto manufacturer is now venturing into EVs, the R2 will not stand out to non-Rivian owners but just be a competitor to similar SUVs already in production. At least the R1T competition significantly more limited. I think betting on the R2 to be a hallelujah moment is foolhardy. And with Scout looking like a clone, I expect an acquisition of Rivian to be at least a topic of discussion at VW. Technology wise, they complement each other to fill each other’s weaknesses.
A free markeT would eliminate gas and oil subsidies as well. And a government that works for its citizens would tax the production of harmful products. The health effects of petroleum production (markedly increased levels of asthma, for one) are expenses we all bear, yet are not paid by those profiting from their production. There are a number of studies that estimate the true costs of one gallon of gasoline, and (shock!) they show a lot higher price than paid at the pump.
Correct. It's just mind bending how people are so uniformed about this...including my Rivian owning FIL who is disappointed in the lack of charging, but also says "we can't subsidize it! It has to be privately funded!"
Clearly, I think we can all agree that the most important use of taxpayer dollars it to aggressively funnel them into private, for-profit enterprises of the regime. Golf courses, crypto scams, renovations and upkeep for bribe jets, etc.
“Free market” is as disingenuous as “citizens united” and “right to work”. Their originators and proponents count on the masses never reading past the short, reasonable sounding names and realizing the actual intent aims to accomplish the opposite—i.e. con jobs.
100% agree Mike. No subsidy swayed me as well. R1T was love at first sight, and never looked back.
Admirable. Where did you send the check to reimburse the government for the help Rivian has received? Assume you also turned down any point of purchase credits?
I don't want to get involved in this banter.
I suppose some pre-price hike might have been stretched even at that price.
If you guys are arguing about people splitting for dollars for the CVC (pre-price hike for example), you're verily wrong if you think it didn't make or break the decision for some of us. I'm not 'rich' and in a lot of ways my vehicle is irresponsible for my income level. I have my justifications.
Exactly.
the carbon offset money is the big issue and that is gone for at least the next 3 years. Tesla would never have made it without that money and I'll never understand Elon shooting himself in the foot so badly by supporting T. I'm afraid that Rivian can't survive without being aquired by VW.. it seems like the natural next step but one I will hate to see.
The same people who shit-posted about Tesla being a "govt. welfare" recipient then—and used the "free market" excuse—are some of the same that went silent or cheered him on once he-who-shall-not-be-named aligned with them politically. Irony.
He's probably also complaining about how expensive RAN charging is and prefers Tesla stations because of the cost.
