Rivian Waypoint Network idle fees?

[Dave Cundiff]

Everybody's right -- you have the option to slow the charge from your Rivian's screens or the Rivian app. Sometimes that's the best choice, as long as you're confident nobody else will need the charge before you're done.

Remember to treat others as you want to be treated. If that means moving your car, maybe that's a small price to pay for living in a world where EV owners make sure everyone's needs are met, not just their own.

We often stay in a medium-size hotel with one (but only one) very reliable charger. We always let the front desk know that if someone else wants the charger, we will negotiate so everyone's needs get met. Sometimes I have to set an alarm. Other times, others make sacrifices to accommodate me.

Give respect, get respect....

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[comtns]

I'll just go somewhere else with a charger I can rely on.

 

[mkhuffman]

I'll just go somewhere else with a charger I can rely on.

Wherever you go, move your truck when it is done charging. I have set my alarm for very early in the morning so I can go move my vehicle, because you never know who might need to charge more than you need your sleep. After you move your truck, go back to bed. No big deal.

One time I charged overnight (it never reached full charge) and as I was leaving at 6 AM the next morning, there was a Tesla waiting to use my spot. He pulled in right as I was leaving.

I guess I could be really selfish and sleep to 10 AM, because who is more important than me?

I wish all charging spots charged an idle fee. And it should be big. It can start small, but it should ramp up the longer the a-hole occupies the space.

 

[Dave Cundiff]

Another option, when in a safe enough environment, is to leave your phone number on your dashboard. There are lots of ways of respecting each other. No two situations are the same.

Best to all!

 

[mkhuffman]

Another option, when in a safe enough environment, is to leave your phone number on your dashboard. There are lots of ways of respecting each other. No two situations are the same.

Best to all!

I respect your desire to make peace with charger hogs, but I have had way too many bad experiences with people who think they own the charging spot just because they got there first. It is especially bad with free charging. But even those who pay don't seem to be in a hurry to move when the charging session is done.

Sure, there are exceptions, and I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but there are just too many a-holes who really don't care if someone else needs to charge or not. They think they got there first, so they can stay as long as they want.

Human beings are inherently selfish. Everyone is. I recognize that defect is in me also. However, selfishness needs be seen as a problem and not enabled by others who want peace over civility. Social pressure should be against that behavior, not in support of it. And then, maybe, we will have less of it.

Idle fees are the way to go, because then people who really cannot move their vehicles pay for the convenience or need.

 

[comtns]

This isn't a charity; it's a service. In 6.5 years in a volunteer search and rescue unit, all the way up to mission coordinator level, I got up plenty of nights, because that's when the calls come in. I've left my Tesla plugged in all night at multiple hotel destination chargers, and various Airbnbs, because that's how it should be. Adequate infrastructure. I don't feel like being shamed into some idiotic middle of the night ritual because of inadequate infrastructure, frankly the equivalent of a dryer outlet. Tesla, whatever your opinion of them, at least seemed to focus on making stuff work for actual needs... destination chargers among them.

Plenty of threads on here where people are told they should put up with crap.

Exactly when have the virtuous shamers gotten up in the middle of the night to help others? Or just an attitude?

 

[Dave Cundiff]

Search and rescue is difficult work, and difficult training. @comtns, thank you for your service to others.

I don't intend to come across as a "shamer" -- virtuous or otherwise. There are only a few situations best addressed with black-and-white rules. We're all trying to do our best in a needy world.

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As an older health care professional who is still "blessed" with overnight responsibilities, I have also been awakened to help others more times than I can count. I try to practice what I preach.

In an ideal world, all of us would have enough chargers for as long as we wanted. In the actual world, we don't.

When we find hotels with drama-free overnight charging, we return to them. In Portland, the best we can find at a reasonable price has one charger for all guests. So we try to share that charger in a way that gets everyone's needs met. The front desk staff help us to do that safely.

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@comtns: Of course you should look for places where the charging is reliable and drama-free, and where nobody is unconvenienced by your charging all night.

Some such places are out there, and most of them are worth paying for.

I think you've got this. Best wishes!

 

[comtns]

Of course you should look for places where the charging is reliable and drama-free, and where nobody is unconvenienced by your charging all night.

Some such places are out there, and most of them are worth paying for.

I think you've got this. Best wishes!

That's all I'm looking for.

Thanks for your overnight healthcare work. I had to take my Mom to late night healthcare multiple times; always great to get kind competent service.

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