COdogman
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Tesla Forced to Change Name of "Full Self-Driving" in China, Since Its Cars Can't Fully Drive Themselves
https://futurism.com/tesla-change-name-full-self-driving-china
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Elon’s sock is not everyone. How much does Musk pay you to shill for him here?So now everyone including the stock market knows that Rober lied. Except maybe some people here.
So looking forward to seeing your proof! (Finally)So now everyone including the stock market knows that Rober lied. Except maybe some people here.
Ok, so to summarize, you won't say if Tesla's systems are safer or not safer than a human and you cannot provide any proof to support your claim that "pretty well all" other systems, including Waymo ARE safer than a human driver...
It's been real fun, but I have wasted enough time attempting to get you to answer extremely simple questions.
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Good call. Finally.
I'm just here to applaud the world-class memes.Wow! YouTubers with GoPros? Very scientific…

~80% of Tesla vehicles on the road are HW3 according to Google AI.
That's a lot of Wile e Coyote deaths.
I wouldn't put my or my families safety in the hands of EM for any amount of money. But for those that would, you do you.
This is a very specific set of circumstances that can't happen in real life
The HW3 cars just don’t disappear. They find new owners and continue to be on the road with their inferior capabilities.HW3 is prevalent but tesla did not sell full autonomy except in 2018. So the number of HW3 which paid for a full autonomy package is very low. And tesla offered many of these 2018 owners FSD transfer, so they have switched to HW4
The number of people in need of a retrofit is so low that tesla could theoretically give them a brand new car
So based on this does it mean Tesla is a bigger liar?So now everyone including the stock market knows that Rober lied. Except maybe some people here.
yes but not unsupervised self driving capabilities. And HW3 cars will be greatly outnumbered by HW4 cars soon enoughThe HW3 cars just don’t disappear. They find new owners and continue to be on the road with their inferior capabilities.
So looking forward to seeing your proof! (Finally)
I’ll believe that when I see it. If Tesla’s value continues at this downward trend, it’s unlikely that a free upgrade will be offered.Unlike rivian gen 1, tesla upgrading HW3 to HW5 or whatever is trivial since it is just a computer swap
That’s great. Except you already admitted you have no idea how many deaths and injuries have involved Tesla autonomous driving systems, remember? You tried to point me to a crowdsourced website that doesn’t include injuries, close calls, potentially dangerous illegal driving like going the wrong way around roundabouts, etc., etc…
3.6 billion miles using FSD. According to average stat, 36 people should have died and technically more since Tesla is supposedly a high death rate brand. Go ahead and find me those 36 people
In fact almost 3 billion miles with no death is pretty good
So based on this does it mean Tesla is a bigger liar?
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