Toyota BZ4X electric SUV

[R_1_T]

I am more interested in the Subaru offering. It is likely to have slightly higher ground clearance / a more light off-roading friendly setup. That said, the specs are nothing groundbreaking.

Toyota doesn't typically do groundbreaking - they prefer safe/reliable instead.

I'd actually be surprised if the Subaru variant has increased ride height due to the impact to aerodynamics, and thus efficiency. The CrossTrek hybrid was dinged for its marginal efficiency improvements.

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[koersontap]

Toyota: "We're completely against BEVs! ... btw, here's our BEV!"

I"m getting a little tired of Toyota's hypocrisy here.

I'd rather the hypocrisy over them not doing anything. ?‍

 

[Zeroemit]

I am more interested in the Subaru offering. It is likely to have slightly higher ground clearance / a more light off-roading friendly setup. That said, the specs are nothing groundbreaking.

Compared to Rivian off road prowess definitely not groundbreaking, but then again i reckon that's not what the BZ was designed for.

As far as range/efficiency - approx. 285 - 300 miles/ 71.4 kwh battery. That puts it roughly in same range/efficiency as a Model Y. Pretty darn good for a first BEV

Actually Toyota had BEV before Tesla was a idea in Elon's head, but i digress.

 

[DucRider]

As far as range/efficiency - approx. 285 - 300 miles/ 71.4 kwh battery. That puts it roughly in same range/efficiency as a Model Y. Pretty darn good for a first BEV

Toyota is only referring to that as "cruising range". No idea what that really means, but vehicles first released outside of the US usually have their range numbers based on WLTP (about 30% more that the eventual EPA number).
I think it will come in under 250 (vehicles like the Bolt get 258 from 66 kWh, but they are smaller/lighter)

 

[Richbot]

That's not going to be a 300-mile EPA vehicle, but I would expect Toyota's deployment strategy to lead to "as-advertised" real-world range similar to what the Germans are offering with their rated ranges.

 

[Mister Person]

So it's an electric RAV4.

 

[E.S.]

I'd rather the hypocrisy over them not doing anything. ?‍

Agreed that I rather see them take action and do it. But they can go about it without the hypocrisy.

 

[Babbuino]

 

[svet-am]

Before ordering her XC40 Recharge, my wife wanted a Subaru BEV. She really wanted Solterra (same as this platform) and bailed on it after reading about Toyota's hypocrisy on this issue.

 

[Arthur Itiz]

Toyota: "We're completely against BEVs! ... btw, here's our BEV!"

I"m getting a little tired of Toyota's hypocrisy here.

I think Toyota is getting caught flat-footed here. They looked at charging infrastructure and took a hard 'pass' on the technology. Now the segment is picking up steam and it's almost like Toyota has that 'deer in the headlights' approach. They either need to get onboard fast or risk their ranking in the automotive world.

 

[camaroz1985]

Before ordering her XC40 Recharge, my wife wanted a Subaru BEV. She really wanted Solterra (same as this platform) and bailed on it after reading about Toyota's hypocrisy on this issue.

My wife wants a Subaru BEV too (the first car she ever bought for herself was a Forester, and she misses it to this day), but wants a 3 row, so she will continue to wait or have to pivot to another brand. I'm not thrilled about the Subaru being a rebadged Toyota anyway, so I am ok with passing on this one.

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