UWB (Digital Car Key) Support

[skyote]

I'm guessing there will be a valet profile that will allow any authorized device to access valet mode.

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[Daedalus]

Here is a good visual overview of the UWB capabilities and future scope - some major financial and tech companies are supporting this standard:

https://www.firaconsortium.org/discover/use-cases

The capabilities of UWB seem very comprehensive - based on the comparison that they have between UWB and legacy standards, there are accuracy improvements as well as jamming and interception/encryption improvements.
I hope UWB is a feature that we can (in the future) opt to upgrade after delivery - maybe by swapping out the Telematics module ? ? When my guide (finally) calls, I will be raising this question with Rivian.

Also, I found the usecases regarding smart home and smart city interesting:

https://www.firaconsortium.org/discover/use-cases/smart-cities-mobility

https://www.firaconsortium.org/discover/use-cases/smart-home-consumer

Since BMW, Hyundai and Ford are all a part of the CCC/FIRA and releasing cars (this year) with support for UWB, I am certain that (Smart) people at Rivian are looking at ways to include it in their vehicles.

 

[Pedritho]

Didn‘t know where to put this morsel of information, but the CS agent mentioned that the Rivian App has just been released, but I searched for it in the iOS App Store and didn’t see anything.

 

[R_1_T]

Didn‘t know where to put this morsel of information, but the CS agent mentioned that the Rivian App has just been released, but I searched for it in the iOS App Store and didn’t see anything.

This probably means it's been released to the respective app stores for approval.
That being said, I'll be happy with a chunky, tough, IP67 waterproof keyfob.

 

[Trekkie]

i prefer an RFID fob in the pocket more than a phone, I've had less problems with a fob than a phone.

I've also had dead batteries in the phone.

I love the idea though, and would use it if available, but I'd always have a key fob with me anyway.

 

[fallen888]

I... Am flabbergasted... First I'd seen of this.
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One getting the key fob and the other having to open the app and login and perform a round trip process involving the Internet will literally cause divorce.
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Smithery, take this from someone who has had 3 different Tesla models in his garage and has been driving a Tesla for over 5 years... Phone and car communicate via low energy Bluetooth signals for easy and quick access to the car. I've used my key card maybe once a year on average, and no other fobs. If Rivian handles it similarly via their mobile app (and background service), it'll be a great feature. No internet necessary (remote access is a different animal).

 

[Smithery]

Smithery, take this from someone who has had 3 different Tesla models in his garage and has been driving a Tesla for over 5 years... Phone and car communicate via low energy Bluetooth signals for easy and quick access to the car. I've used my key card maybe once a year on average, and no other fobs. If Rivian handles it similarly via their mobile app (and background service), it'll be a great feature. No internet necessary (remote access is a different animal).

It's funny that your Tesla from 5 years ago allowed local bluetooth to unlock the car without remote access, because my current Tesla from 4 years ago absolutely does not, as verified a few days ago in my driveway

Anyways, yes, people came out of the woodwork to point out that newer Teslas don't require the network - Which is great!

There was a period in time where the phone-key feature required you to unlock the phone and open the app, which would still absolutely be a deal breaker.

Unclear if that's still the case. Can you literally just walk up to the car and it'll automatically unlock with your phone still in your pocket, just blue tooth...? If so... that sure solves the convenience problem. But... that's... not what bluetooth is for and would be horrifying from a security perspective.

UWB solves the issues with that. It's (partially) designed for this exact use case. And it is certainly the future.

Anyways, tldr; If we get only one key fob, we'll pay hundreds for a second. And grumble loudly about it.

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