R1 G2 never estimates range

[dcmackintosh]

In 54k miles of driving, our G2 R1S Dual Max has never displayed a range number that is not the same constant multiple of %SOC (380 miles at 100%, 190 at 50%, etc.). The constant only changes with drive mode selected. Others seem to believe that Rivian does estimate range based on recent consumption, like every other car, but ours absolutely does not. I can't believe this behavior is unique to our vehicle. Is it also the same with Gen 1?

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[Weck]

In my experience, the range in the drivers display works as you say, pretty much useless other than I believe it does adjust when the battery is really cold now, below freezing cold.

When you are navigating, the estimated range left at your destination does update continually as you drive. While I only have 16k on my gen 2, mine has gotten more accurate as it now knows I drive 10 over on the freeway, and the estimated range it says at the beginning of the trip is within a percent of what it is when I get there.

Only think that throws it off is when I have the bikes loaded up, it takes a few miles to calibrate to the bike rack tax.

 

[VandalSibs]

I just turn of the estimated miles for the driver display. The % remaining is enough for me, since whenever I'm using navigation that's the only estimate that I care about. Otherwise, I have a good feel for just how far I'll get in my truck, no need for it to tell me how many 'miles' left.

 

[BigSkies]

I believe range in the driver display works as you described. I think; I haven't measured it closely, but that feels like how it operates.

Range upon arrival in navigation uses some variety of factors including speed and likely personal driving habits to come up with range numbers. I've found this gauge to be a pretty accurate estimate of real-world range.

I sometimes do the mental math comparing the driver display to the nav display to figure how efficient I am vs. the Rivian average.

 

[dcmackintosh]

Thanks for the replies, it sounds like others that have actually checked see the same behavior. In All Purpose mode, I can always multiply the displayed SOC% by 3.8 to get the displayed range (because 100% is supposedly 380 miles, which is never actually the case for my driving). Terrain and speed makes no difference. When navigating, the displayed SOC at destination is adjusted dynamically, but the displayed remaining range at destination is still always the same multiple of SOC. It doesn't matter if the destination is at the top or bottom of the 5k' mountain I drive up and down all winter. Small variations are within the error expected because you only get an integer SOC value displayed.

 

[VSG]

In 54k miles of driving, our G2 R1S Dual Max has never displayed a range number that is not the same constant multiple of %SOC (380 miles at 100%, 190 at 50%, etc.). The constant only changes with drive mode selected. Others seem to believe that Rivian does estimate range based on recent consumption, like every other car, but ours absolutely does not. I can't believe this behavior is unique to our vehicle. Is it also the same with Gen 1?

The number on your driver's screen IS NOT A RANGE ESTIMATE.
It does NOT tell you how far you can go - how could it when it has no way of knowing if you're going to drive uphill or down hill, fast or slow?
It does NOT tell you how many "miles" you have in your "tank", because that's not a thing.

It is simply a fuel gauge. It tells you how full your battery is, just like the little icon which is next to it which is a visual representation of your battery level. Just like on your phone, where that little icon shows you how full your battery is. And just like your phone, your Rivian has no way of knowing how it's going to be used, so it can't tell you whether you're going to need a charge in three hours or three days - that depends on what you're going to do in the future.

Do yourself a favor and go into your settings and change that number to display battery % instead of miles, just like on your phone. Or choose % and miles, instead of just miles, so you don't have to do math to get a rough estimate of what "50%" means.

When you use your Rivian's navigation on the center screen to route to a destination, THEN your Rivian knows where you are going and how fast you will be traveling and whether you are going uphill or downhill, and THEN it can give you a reasonable estimate (on the center screen) of how much battery you will consume on that specific route. This estimate learns over time and will shortly become very accurate.

In my experience, the range in the drivers display works as you say, pretty much useless

Do you find the fuel gauge in your gas vehicle "pretty much useless"? It is what it is - most of us use the fuel gauge a lot to give us a rough idea of when we will need to refuel. It works the same way in an EV.

 

[Weck]

The number on your driver's screen IS NOT A RANGE ESTIMATE.
It does NOT tell you how far you can go - how could it when it has no way of knowing if you're going to drive uphill or down hill, fast or slow?
It does NOT tell you how many "miles" you have in your "tank", because that's not a thing.

It is simply a fuel gauge. It tells you how full your battery is, just like the little icon which is next to it which is a visual representation of your battery level. Just like on your phone, where that little icon shows you how full your battery is. And just like your phone, your Rivian has no way of knowing how it's going to be used, so it can't tell you whether you're going to need a charge in three hours or three days - that depends on what you're going to do in the future.

Do yourself a favor and go into your settings and change that number to display battery % instead of miles, just like on your phone. Or choose % and miles, instead of just miles, so you don't have to do math to get a rough estimate of what "50%" means.

When you use your Rivian's navigation on the center screen to route to a destination, THEN your Rivian knows where you are going and how fast you will be traveling and whether you are going uphill or downhill, and THEN it can give you a reasonable estimate (on the center screen) of how much battery you will consume on that specific route. This estimate learns over time and will shortly become very accurate.


Do you find the fuel gauge in your gas vehicle "pretty much useless"? It is what it is - most of us use the fuel gauge a lot to give us a rough idea of when we will need to refuel. It works the same way in an EV.

Well, seeing as it shows me fuel level, not range, that's a odd position you just assigned to me.

I do find the "guess-o-meter" on my ICE vehicles only slightly useful. The difference is that number does adjust somewhat to current driving conditions; I think a lot of people expect the range number next to the poc gauge to behave similar to the estimate in an ice vehicle. Rivian could make it do that, they already do it on the vehicle screen where Gary makes the faces depending on current energy consumption.

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