Rivian R1T on Street Tires Went 60 Miles Farther in Highway Range Test - Car & Driver

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Rivian R1T on Street Tires Went 60 Miles Farther in Our Highway Range Test (msn.com)

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[moosehead]

I’m wildly impressed with the twennie twens, range, overall handling, etc. No harshness whatsoever either. It could also just be the R1T but the sneakers are critical for any rig let alone a 7100’ rocket.

Note others point out the limited C&D test and the optimal temps for the test on the 22’s vs 20’s comparison.

Still concerned about snow handling and not sure if I’ll switch out to Hankook’s rubber or trade for the 20’s.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

And from my understanding none of this testing is done in conserve mode either, making the range you can get out of it even more.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I’m wildly impressed with the twennie twens, range, overall handling, etc. No harshness whatsoever either. It could also just be the R1T but the sneakers are critical for any rig let alone a 7100’ rocket.

Note others point out the limited C&D test and the optimal temps for the test on the 22’s vs 20’s comparison.

Still concerned about snow handling and not sure if I’ll switch out to Hankook’s rubber or trade for the 20’s.

I have a separate set of winter wheels/tires for all my vehicles I intend on driving during the winter for the last 15 years. Plan on the same for the Rivian, but so far there haven't been any economical options for rims that I've seen. I might just end up having the meats swapped out for this first winter if there doesn't end up being a good solution to the problem. It's just a bummer that we're not allowed to use studded tires in Michigan when the roads aren't completely covered, as the Nokian options are studded.

 

[Blueassassin]

What kind of range are people actually seeing with conserve mode and the 20's ?

 

[DJG]

What kind of range are people actually seeing with conserve mode and the 20's ?

I would confidently rely on getting 290 as a baseline before adjusting for things like cold and elevation gain. If I tuck behind a large truck doing 65-70, I think I could get 325 easily, maybe more. The other thing I'd add is you can confidently rely on the range estimate the vehicle gives you. The ending range prediction in NAV will typically be slightly conservative if anything (lower than you'll actually arrive with). I've never been caught off guard by the vehicle's prediction of range.

 

[moosehead]

I have a separate set of winter wheels/tires for all my vehicles I intend on driving during the winter for the last 15 years. Plan on the same for the Rivian, but so far there haven't been any economical options for rims that I've seen. I might just end up having the meats swapped out for this first winter if there doesn't end up being a good solution to the problem. It's just a bummer that we're not allowed to use studded tires in Michigan when the roads aren't completely covered, as the Nokian options are studded.

Nokian’s updated EV offerings look impressive, including Hakka’s in studless 22’s for R1. Weight class is slightly under spec but looks good.

https://www.nokiantires.com/tires/electric-cars/

+1 hard to justify $1,300 to $1,600 per corner for forged winter wheel set.

 

[DJG]

I'm skeptical when someone doing testing makes comments like this, which suggests they aren't as educated as they should be:

If anything, we would have thought the 85-degree temperature during this most recent test would hurt the range versus the 57-degree day for the earlier run.

They have this backwards, the higher temps with the 22's helped the results. I was immediately skeptical of the 30% difference as was sure there was an explanation. When I saw that they did the 20's in November and the 22's in the summer, I was pretty sure I knew the answer. Sure enough, yes, a 30 degree difference in temps explains a meaningful amount of that, tires alone don't make a 30% difference.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Nokian’s updated EV offerings look impressive, including Hakka’s in studless 22’s for R1. Weight class is slightly under spec but looks good.

https://www.nokiantires.com/tires/electric-cars/

+1 hard to justify $1,300 to $1,600 per corner for forged winter wheel set.

Interesting. I can't find that R5 tire anywhere. I'm going to reach out to Nokian about it since it's basically the exact tire I'd want.

 

[crashmtb]

Interesting. I can't find that R5 tire anywhere. I'm going to reach out to Nokian about it since it's basically the exact tire I'd want.

simply go to canada. Kal Tire lists them.

https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/ha...refv5=22&prefn6=tire_width&prefv6=275&start=1

 

[NY_Rob]

I'm skeptical when someone doing testing makes comments like this, which suggests they aren't as educated as they should be:

If anything, we would have thought the 85-degree temperature during this most recent test would hurt the range versus the 57-degree day for the earlier run.

They have this backwards, the higher temps with the 22's helped the results. I was immediately skeptical of the 30% difference as was sure there was an explanation. When I saw that they did the 20's in November and the 22's in the summer, I was pretty sure I knew the answer. Sure enough, yes, a 30 degree difference in temps explains a meaningful amount of that, tires alone don't make a 30% difference.

100% agree with your conclusions.

Who knows, if they ran the 22's at 57F and the 20's at 85F their range might have been almost identical?

 

[SlaterGS]

I'm skeptical when someone doing testing makes comments like this, which suggests they aren't as educated as they should be:

If anything, we would have thought the 85-degree temperature during this most recent test would hurt the range versus the 57-degree day for the earlier run.

I thought the same thing.

Also, what is the reason for this difference?

This latest R1T was also 137 pounds lighter, at 7036 pounds total.

 

[ads75]

Also, what is the reason for this difference?

Difference could just be the wheel/tire combo, and maybe one didn't have a spare tire.

 

[DJG]

I thought the same thing.

Also, what is the reason for this difference?

Wheels/tires themselves, or one had a spare. I could definitely see the 20's being about 35lbs heavier per wheel than the 22's (total weight of wheel/tire).

 

[Taycanfrank]

Temperature was likely the biggest change here. C&D, like other publications, goes out of their way to hide details of their testing. They WANT different results to make a click baiting article.

They claim 57 degrees vs 85 degrees. But what was the temperature when they actually left? Was it much cooler on the 57 degree day until it warmed up? Etc.

Street tires are obviously going to get better range than AT, but I'd take this test with a huge grain of salt.

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