Tank Turn-Anyone heard more about this?

[Bobthebuilder352]

I am sure it will be GPS base activation.

This seems unlikely

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[SANZC02]

This seems unlikely

I agree, basing it on GPS location would almost be impossible to manage once implemented . With all of the traction information they are monitoring, I am sure it will be based on specific levels of traction.

They certainly do not want people blowing things up trying it on dry pavement.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

Why should Rivian care how quickly an owner wants to go through tires?

 

[electruck]

Why should Rivian care how quickly an owner wants to go through tires?

You'll destroy a lot more than tires attempting tank turns on dry pavement. That, unfortunately, would also lead some to attempt a warranty claim or perhaps even file a lawsuit.

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

You'll destroy a lot more than tires attempting tank turns on dry pavement. That, unfortunately, would also lead some to attempt a warranty claim or perhaps even file a lawsuit.

Like what?

Only thing I ever broke being ‘stupid’ on pavement was a CV shaft. And warranty wouldn’t have covered that.

 

[txtravwill]

I'm assuming Tank Turn is going to come with a pop up warning if you enable it to release liability to Rivian against warranty etc likely. Something stating that it can only be done on loose/wet/dirt surfaces, they take no responsibility against damaged caused by it to the actual truck or anything else since it is not an easy to control function likely.

 

[MReda]

I'm assuming Tank Turn is going to come with a pop up warning if you enable it to release liability to Rivian against warranty etc likely. Something stating that it can only be done on loose/wet/dirt surfaces, they take no responsibility against damaged caused by it to the actual truck or anything else since it is not an easy to control function likely.

My Audi has a launch control counter. Maybe Rivian will implement a degrees of rotation counter, for people who spend their Sunday afternoon tank turning in the cul de sac.

 

[SANZC02]

Why should Rivian care how quickly an owner wants to go through tires?

I do not think they care about your tires.

They do care about their brand. I can see a bunch of mental midgets tearing the trucks up doing this on dry pavement and then trashing the company everywhere they can online because it breaks and they won't warranty it.

If only we lived in a utopia where it wasn't such a litigious society and people actually took responsibility for the decisions they made, regardless of the outcome, and not expect someone else to foot the bill....

 

[CommodoreAmiga]

I do not think they care about your tires.

They do care about their brand. I can see a bunch of mental midgets tearing the trucks up doing this on dry pavement and then trashing the company everywhere they can online because it breaks and they won't warranty it.

If only we lived in a utopia where it wasn't such a litigious society and people actually took responsibility for the decisions they made, regardless of the outcome, and not expect someone else to foot the bill....

We don’t see that happening with other vehicles.

I don’t like nannies created when there is no actual problem that requires them.

 

[electruck]

Like what?

Only thing I ever broke being ‘stupid’ on pavement was a CV shaft. And warranty wouldn’t have covered that.

I believe it was Rivian's Brian Gase that mentioned damage if attempted on pavement but don't have the video reference queued up at the moment. A half shaft or CV joint would certainly be more than tires. I could also see various mounts and bushings giving out, perhaps even the motor housing. I suspect there is also a potential for things to quickly get out of control if the tires were to "hook up" during the maneuver. The fact that we can't even envision what exactly could go wrong is probably the exact reason Rivian needs to restrict to certain conditions.

Doesn't matter what warranty will cover, it will create a friction point with the handful of customers who feel the vehicle should be able to handle doing tank turns on any surface if Rivian didn't disallow it. There's always someone.

Apples to oranges but, personally, I have had the rear subframe mounts rip out of the floor pan of my old BMW without any driving shenanigans - was a well known problem with the e46 platform (and the e36 had a similar problem).

 

[godfodder0901]

I believe it was Rivian's Brian Gase that mentioned damage if attempted on pavement but don't have the video reference queued up at the moment.

He told me in New York that you would "break shit" if you did it on pavement...

 

[skyote]

I have money that the Rivian will test the surface conditions & won't do tank turn unless it's a loose surface.

 

[skyote]

There was an article that quoted a Rivian spokesperson that indicated the vehicle will determine whether terrain is appropriate for tank turn by “estimating the surface friction before enabling the feature.”

Just read this, but totally agree this would be the smartest way to do it, to minimize the risk of damage.

I hope they don’t overcomplicate it. Let owners choose when they use the feature. I’m not a fan of having too many nannies. Personal responsibility and accountability should be the standard.

I agree, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in anymore. Companies get sued for not protecting idiots from themselves.

 

[LeoH]

Doesn't Tesla show a warning when launching in Ludicrous mode?

I did read that it will GPS fenced, but that will also be problematic because what if an area got paved? How long will it take for the GPC to update? I think a warning will be sufficient, and let owners know that any damage is not covered under warranty or something of that sort.

 

[Gshenderson]

Like what?

Only thing I ever broke being ‘stupid’ on pavement was a CV shaft. And warranty wouldn’t have covered that.

Have you ever attempted a tank turn on pavement? I’m guessing no.

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