Tesla: "First Cybertruck Built at Giga Texas! ?"

[kurtlikevonnegut]

I own a R1T but I understand and recognize better engineering (versus the legacy OEMs). If that subjects me to ridicule...OK, have fun.

Which parts are better engineered? The only thing we know about it are estimates and a shape (and that the windows aren't actually bullet proof). Everything else is rumor or marketing material. Nobody has done an actual evaluation of a production model yet.

Besides that, just the shape of it bring ridiculous compromises to the forefront regardless of specs. The sides of the bed will make it impossible to reach over the side to grab anything close to the cab. The tonneau cover blocks the rear window completely when it's closed. The shape results in a ridiculous amount of space from the wheel to the windshield, meaning it will be a nightmare to park or maneuver in small spaces. The location and size of the A pillar make an enormous blindspot. The windshield wiper is comical and will be absolutely nightmarish to replace.

You can call that superior engineering if you want, I call it farcical.

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[COdogman]

If I start claiming I love Tesla and the Cybertruck do I get magical future telling powers too?

 

[Dark-Fx]

If I start claiming I love Tesla and the Cybertruck do I get magical future telling powers too?

Only if you accept Elon as your lord and savior.

Have no idea how anyone can look at the prototype of the Cybertruck and say "yeah, this is definitely function over form" when they haven't deviated much from the external design language. "We want it to look like this and everything else be damned" comes to mind.

 

[COdogman]

Only if you accept Elon as your lord and savior.

 

[Zorg]

If I start claiming I love Tesla and the Cybertruck do I get magical future telling powers too?

Actually it seems that everyone on this thread is a fortune teller. We should find out soon enough what the real thing can and cannot do.

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[COdogman]

Actually it seems that everyone on this thread is a fortune teller. We should find out soon enough what the real thing can and cannot do.

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The only thing I have predicted with certainty is there will not be a $40k Cybertruck. I will happily admit it if I turn out to be wrong about that.

 

[Zoidz]

This vehicle is engineered not designed. Form follows function. it will be the most capable electric truck on the market. Specs-wise and price-wise it will be no contest. Best battery tech, best efficiency, best software, charge at all 22,000 SCs not just 12,000, won't corrode or rust, etc.

However, if you buy a truck for looks, then I can understand the hard no. Many in this forum laugh and disparage the vehicle but watch how many they sell.

It could be all of those "best" things you list and still be an overall mediocre success. Why? Because it cannot be the "most capable" electric truck for everybody. That's an impossible claim. The bed design is certainly inferior, perhaps unusable, by tradesmen/craftsmen. Tool boxes? Ladder/pipe racks? Mobile welding truck? Mobile mechanic's truck with half ton hoist? Reaching over the sides to load/unload? Our engineering company's electricians and welders would laugh if I suggested a CT for them.

It can't be best at both specs AND price, that's a silly statement.

It can't be "the most capable" if it can't do things like this, and this is not bought for looks.

 

[CrazyOne]

There were over 3 million people applied for positions at Tesla in 2022. They hired roughly 30k, or 1% of all applicants.

If unhappy at Tesla, they should leave to a better suited employers. Life is too short to be miserable at work.

While job hunting in tech, people apply for 30 - 100 positions per day.

 

[MDH]

It could be all of those "best" things you list and still be an overall mediocre success. Why? Because it cannot be the "most capable" electric truck for everybody. That's an impossible claim. The bed design is certainly inferior, perhaps unusable, by tradesmen/craftsmen. Tool boxes? Ladder/pipe racks? Mobile welding truck? Mobile mechanic's truck with half ton hoist? Reaching over the sides to load/unload? Our engineering company's electricians and welders would laugh if I suggested a CT for them.

It can't be best at both specs AND price, that's a silly statement.

It can't be "the most capable" if it can't do things like this, and this is not bought for looks.

"Can't be both best at specs and price." Are you sure? Comparing it to the Silverado and Lightning, I believe it will tow more, haul more and have equal or better range with a smaller kWh pack, thus more efficient, 48 volt architecture and a better charging curve (Lightning is terrible). Regarding price, you do know no one will be buying the S or L at MSRP for at least a year maybe two. Lightnings and Mach Es are crowding dealer lots and many still want a "market adjustment" tacked on. The Silverado First Edition is $107K without any options. What do you think the dealers will ask later this year....$115K, $120K or perhaps $125K? The top tier CT will not be that expensive. As for the possibility of mediocre success, you could be right. Many (especially on this forum) despise the design and/or Elon. But what Tesla model has had mediocre success?

 

[Zoidz]

"Can't be both best at specs and price." Are you sure? Comparing it to the Silverado and Lightning, I believe it will tow more, haul more and have equal or better range with a smaller kWh pack, thus more efficient, 48 volt architecture and a better charging curve (Lightning is terrible). Regarding price, you do know no one will be buying the S or L at MSRP for at least a year maybe two. Lightnings and Mach Es are crowding dealer lots and many still want a "market adjustment" tacked on. The Silverado First Edition is $107K without any options. What do you think the dealers will ask later this year....$115K, $120K or perhaps $125K? The top tier CT will not be that expensive. As for the possibility of mediocre success, you could be right. Many (especially on this forum) despise the design and/or Elon. But what Tesla model has had mediocre success?

None of what I mention previously or below reflects hate on Elon. I don't like the design for functional, practical, utility reasons.

Ford Lightnings have factory discounts/incentives and special financing deals. They are selling below MSRP at many dealers. You can get a Lightning Pro for under $61,000 and 1.9% financing.

• $2,500: Atlanta, Cincinnati, Dallas, Houston, New York, and Pittsburg.
• $2,000: Boston, Denver, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington.
• $1,000: Chicago, Charlotte, Detroit, Kansas City, Memphis, Orlando, Phoenix, and the Twin Cities region.

Moreover, customers can also benefit from 1.9 percent financing for up to 36 months on all Lightning versions. No such deals existed previously, and it's the first time Ford is offering discounts on the electric truck since deliveries began in the summer of 2022, as per CarsDirect data.

Tesla Model X in particular has had mediocre success. Right hand drive Model S has been discontinued and Tesla is giving buyers a "grabber" tool to reach across the seat if they buy a left hand drive Model S. Why would they discontinue it if overseas sales in UK, Japan, etc. were good?

Read the following links:
Inside EVs
Top Speed
Hot Cars
Observer: "Model S and Model X are Tesla’s most expensive electric cars but don’t sell well. In 2022, the company sold only 66,705 Model S and Model X vehicles, accounting for 5 percent of its total delivery. The previous year, Model S and Model X cars were less than 3 percent of Tesla’s total unit sales."

 

[ads75]

I think Tesla knows how to price vehicles. Look what they did with the Y pricing versus the Mach E.

Are you talking about the massive pricing fluctuations of the Tesla Model Y verse the Mach E? Lots of Tesla customers seemed to be complaining earlier this year when Tesla dropped prices. Genuinely asking, please elaborate on your pricing explanation.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

None of what I mention previously or below reflects hate on Elon. I don't like the design for functional, practical, utility reasons.

Ford Lightnings have factory discounts/incentives and special financing deals. They are selling below MSRP at many dealers. You can get a Lightning Pro for under $61,000 and 1.9% financing.

• $2,500: Atlanta, Cincinnati, Dallas, Houston, New York, and Pittsburg.
• $2,000: Boston, Denver, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington.
• $1,000: Chicago, Charlotte, Detroit, Kansas City, Memphis, Orlando, Phoenix, and the Twin Cities region.

Moreover, customers can also benefit from 1.9 percent financing for up to 36 months on all Lightning versions. No such deals existed previously, and it's the first time Ford is offering discounts on the electric truck since deliveries began in the summer of 2022, as per CarsDirect data.

Tesla Model X in particular has had mediocre success. Right hand drive Model S has been discontinued and Tesla is giving buyers a "grabber" tool to reach across the seat if they buy a left hand drive Model S. Why would they discontinue it if overseas sales in UK, Japan, etc. were good?

Read the following links:
Inside EVs
Top Speed
Hot Cars
Observer: "Model S and Model X are Tesla’s most expensive electric cars but don’t sell well. In 2022, the company sold only 66,705 Model S and Model X vehicles, accounting for 5 percent of its total delivery. The previous year, Model S and Model X cars were less than 3 percent of Tesla’s total unit sales."

Ford just announced some massive price cuts on the Lightning as well.

On the Model X and S. IMO the sales decline is simply because they are very old designs. I‘m not sure about this but the S might be the oldest sedan design on US roads after the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger are finally put out to pasture this year. I know that Tesla has done a lot of things under the skin but they still look a lot like they did when they were first introduced TEN YEARS AGO.

 

[israndy]

Pretty funny trash talking a truck on second truck's site because the first truck can't do things that the second truck can't do either.

 

[Zoidz]

Pretty funny trash talking a truck on second truck's site because the first truck can't do things that the second truck can't do either.

Ha! Whoosh! The whole discussion went right over your head, lol. OP said that the CT was the most capable EV truck on the market. Pointing out why he was wrong, not specifically bashing CT. I, nor anyone else, ever claimed the Rivian was even CLOSE to the most capable truck on the market. Everyone here already knows the Rivian can't do those things, it's been discussed for years about not being able to plow, size of bed, etc. Sorry you missed out on that.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Pretty funny trash talking a truck on second truck's site because the first truck can't do things that the second truck can't do either.

The Rivian can do SOME of that stuff, like a ladder rack or reaching over the sides of the bed. No one ever said Rivian is the best work truck like was claimed about the CT.

The CT is a gimmick and if its unibody expect it to basically be a truck in name only. It won't tow or haul much of anything, significantly less than the rivian. Regardless Ford and GM are gearing their offerings more towards the work market.

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