Standard Dual Motor does not get new Gauge View

[MrMusAddict]

I do not see tow mode in either screenshot, that is the 4th and 5th mode? I also do not see where it says not performance, just says Dual Motor AWD which is how the Rivian stories reference both. I could be way off base, just calling what I am seeing.

Dual-Motor AWD vehicles come with four drive modes:

• All-Purpose
• Snow
• Tow
• All-Terrain

Performance Dual-Motor AWD vehicles come with five drive modes:

• All-Purpose
• Snow
• Tow
• All-Terrain
• Sport

Those lists of modes are out of date now. Towing is now no longer a mode; all modes (aside form Rally and Drift on QM) are now tow-capable.

That person who claims they have a Standard Dual Motor actually technically does, but they have the All Terrain package. That means that they have "Soft Sand" as an additional mode.

So it seems that the bare bones Dual Motor is the odd man out.

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[Olsonsolar]

My Dad always told that was still a lie.
And to the person who said, "you get what you pay for". You're right. You get 2 more motors and a bunch more drive modes. AS ADVERTISED.
This is horseshit. But I'm holding out hope for a bug. Doesn't really make sense.

Especially when they implied that every vehicle was getting it. I can see when different vehicles that don't have the same capabilities not getting some parts of updates but just withholding parts of an update "because" is BS.

 

[MColbert]

How is this news? I hear all the time on here about "I don't need that extra HP of the quad why would I spend the money". THIS sort of shit is why. Rivian is smart for making the premium features to go with the premium truck and the base model features in the base model trucks. Every other manufacturer does the same thing. You won't be getting massage seats in an XLT Ford you need to buy the platinum trim.

I'm glad Rivian is doing this because the people who spend the money, remember it's 30K more for the quad over the plain dual, should get more features.

I think you are confused between what trim levels are and what added options are. ALL of the current R1Ts are the same trim level (Adventure) with added options for additional motors, upgraded motor software, and colors. My standard dual motor is the same trim level as anybody’s quad. It’s disingenuous of Rivian to advertise a particular feature then secretly not include it if that’s the case.

 

[MColbert]

Also for anybody saying that Rivian didn’t promise the new gauge mode for everyone, they absolutely did. This is from the Rivian email announcing the update:

 

[mtberman]

I can confirm my 23 dual motor standard says “Swipe for Gauges” but the swipe doesn’t work.

For those saying “you get what you paid for”, I paid over $80,000 and Rivian sent me a note saying that EVERYONE would be updated. We have every right to be mad about this. Hopefully this is a bug.

 

[MColbert]

I can confirm my 23 dual motor standard says “Swipe for Gauges” but the swipe doesn’t work.

For those saying “you get what you paid for”, I paid over $80,000 and Rivian sent me a note saying that EVERYONE would be updated. We have every right to be mad about this. Hopefully this is a bug.

Same here, standard dual motor and I also paid over $80k for it.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

I think you are confused between what trim levels are and what added options are. ALL of the current R1Ts are the same trim level (Adventure) with added options for additional motors, upgraded motor software, and colors. My standard dual motor is the same trim level as anybody’s quad. It’s disingenuous of Rivian to advertise a particular feature then secretly not include it if that’s the case.

It appears I'm not the one confused. You can't have the same trim level if you have different power trains. Sure Rivian might call them both adventure but a 30k dollar price delta and completely different power trains would stand against your same trim level theory wouldn't it? You don't have one Platinum F150 with 2wd and the base engine and one with the best of those things. That's not how packages work for any other manufacturer.

 

[godfodder0901]

It appears I'm not the one confused. You can't have the same trim level if you have different power trains. Sure Rivian might call them both adventure but a 30k dollar price delta and completely different power trains would stand against your same trim level theory wouldn't it? You don't have one Platinum F150 with 2wd and the base engine and one with the best of those things. That's not how packages work for any other manufacturer.

The key in your statement is "any other manufacturer". @MColbert didn't make up the trim levels, Rivian did. And they call them just that, trims.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

The key in your statement is "any other manufacturer". @MColbert didn't make up the trim levels, Rivian did. And they call them just that, trims.

And they've already differentiated power trains. So why would you think they wouldnt also offer different software based on which power train you have? Especially since all trucks do not have all modes. We know that to be true, with base dual having less modes. Why is it a leap to think other software might be restricted too?

 

[MColbert]

It appears I'm not the one confused. You can't have the same trim level if you have different power trains. Sure Rivian might call them both adventure but a 30k dollar price delta and completely different power trains would stand against your same trim level theory wouldn't it? You don't have one Platinum F150 with 2wd and the base engine and one with the best of those things. That's not how packages work for any other manufacturer.

I would like to know where exactly you see that a quad with similar package costs $30k more than a dual. It’s $8k difference.

 

[MrMusAddict]

It appears I'm not the one confused. You can't have the same trim level if you have different power trains. Sure Rivian might call them both adventure but a 30k dollar price delta and completely different power trains would stand against your same trim level theory wouldn't it? You don't have one Platinum F150 with 2wd and the base engine and one with the best of those things. That's not how packages work for any other manufacturer.

That's absolutely not true. The F150 specifically can be spec'd with different motors on most trims. And actually, the state of Oregon defines the F150 Lightning Base, XLT, and Lariat to be identical (just with separate options).

That's the key thing; what options may be added to the vehicle. Those options for Rivian were clearly defined; different motor, different selection of drive modes, and some minor badging differences. That's it.

No where does Rivian suggest that additional features could be omitted in OTA updates, (and here's the kicker) even in the promotional material for THIS OTA update.

 

[maclaren4l]

I can confirm my 23 dual motor standard says “Swipe for Gauges” but the swipe doesn’t work.

For those saying “you get what you paid for”, I paid over $80,000 and Rivian sent me a note saying that EVERYONE would be updated. We have every right to be mad about this. Hopefully this is a bug.

100% agree. Differentiate with power settings, fine. But to not give the compass/height/battery temp etc that is basic telemetry has nothing to do with "Performance". It is still an adventure vehicle.

I take delivery of mine very soon, sad to see this still.

 

[MColbert]

And they've already differentiated power trains. So why would you think they wouldnt also offer different software based on which power train you have? Especially since all trucks do not have all modes. We know that to be true, with base dual having less modes. Why is it a leap to think other software might be restricted too?

Exactly, the difference paid is for power train differences. It was never explicit that similar trims across different power trains would be treated so differently. Having more modes for quads makes sense from a hardware perspective (you can do more precise maneuvering with a quad) but to then treat the software different outside of hardware differences seems disingenuous.

 

[Zoidz]

Haven't seen a thread about features this polarized since the Apple CarPlay threads. ?

 

[MColbert]

I think this is different than Apple CarPlay. This is about an unadvertised disparity across different drive trains within the same trim level. It’s not that I really care that I can’t see my battery temp or have a compass. It’s about the promise of one thing and delivery of another. I love my Rivian but there’s a reason I didn’t go with one of the major truck manufacturers like I had since I started driving.

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