Rivian Guide Contacted Finally! (For Real) ?

[IHScout]

Waid, one of the funniest things I've ever seen anywhere. I swiped the pic and will try to remember to give you credit when I use it!

Haha. No need. I think my brother sent it to me a while back. It's a great one.

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[eggpaul]

Spoke to CS this morning. He said we will know EPA number soon, and at the same time said the 21 inch tires will get us 300+ miles while the other 2 will have reduced range. Wonder if they all know the numbers already. He also said my guide will reach out to me any day now, then said he honestly doesn't know if it will be in a week or so, but said 2018 preorder holders have been getting contacted and it surely can be any day for me. hmmmm.

 

[eggpaul]

Can't find the thread for the AT tires, but maybe someone can help me out a bit. Right now I have the AT tire/wheel combo, but not sure what the pros and cons are compared to the 21 inch all season. CS said they both have a great smooth ride. I live in Southern CA. Plan to go to Mammoth once a year or so. I do go skiing in the local mountains often. Just wondering if I need the AT tires. Is it worth a 20-30 mile range reduction? Why are they $1800 more than the 21 inch tires (for non LE holders)? Is the tire more expensive, or the wheel?

 

[PoorPilot]

I also have the 20” AT option and the main reason is for the after market options. I fully expected the more aggressive tread to have a negative impact on range, but after going through an odd size on our Model X a few years ago, I’d rather take an initial hit on range with the aggressive tread and have more options when I need/decide to get new tires. Worst case- I buy a second set of rims with more range friendly tires on them.

 

[cohall]

Is it worth a 20-30 mile range reduction?

Whoa. CS told you it's a 20-30 mile range reduction for the ATs? That seems extreme. I would have expected no more than 10 miles of impact. Might need to rethink my wheel choice.

 

[irish26]

Spoke to CS this morning. He said we will know EPA number soon, and at the same time said the 21 inch tires will get us 300+ miles while the other 2 will have reduced range. Wonder if they all know the numbers already. He also said my guide will reach out to me any day now, then said he honestly doesn't know if it will be in a week or so, but said 2018 preorder holders have been getting contacted and it surely can be any day for me. hmmmm.

My guess is this CS rep stated 300+ miles because that's what the website says. The chat reps will probably hear about the EPA number the same time we do.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Can't find the thread for the AT tires, but maybe someone can help me out a bit. Right now I have the AT tire/wheel combo, but not sure what the pros and cons are compared to the 21 inch all season. CS said they both have a great smooth ride. I live in Southern CA. Plan to go to Mammoth once a year or so. I do go skiing in the local mountains often. Just wondering if I need the AT tires. Is it worth a 20-30 mile range reduction? Why are they $1800 more than the 21 inch tires (for non LE holders)? Is the tire more expensive, or the wheel?

I don’t know what makes them more expensive, but if you aren’t going off-road and you regularly go to the ski areas then your biggest concern may be related to which wheel and tire combo will allow you to buy and install tire chains. Maybe I’m too chicken, but when I go into the mountains and you’re required to have chains with you, I have chains which fit.

I think the 20” AT has the biggest rolling diameter so there is a chance that clearance will be an issue and it could be that the chains cost more as the size goes up. Maybe?

If you’re not as literal about the snow chains requirement then this probably isn’t a concern for you. I figured I’d mention this in case it is an issue for you to consider.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Whoa. CS told you it's a 20-30 mile range reduction for the ATs? That seems extreme. I would have expected no more than 10 miles of impact. Might need to rethink my wheel choice.

I think that @eggpaul changed from CS stated information, “…21 inch tires will get us 300+ miles while the other 2 will have reduced range.” to a question about if the reduction is big, “Is it worth a 20-30 mile range reduction?”

That’s how I read the two posts combined. Hopefully @eggpaul will let us know if CS stated a 20-30 mile reduction.

 

[cohall]

If you’re not as literal about the snow chains requirement then this probably isn’t a concern for you. I figured I’d mention this in case it is an issue for you to consider.

In Colorado, even when chain laws are in effect, if you have AWD or 4WD, you don't need to carry chains if you have AS tires or better with appropriate remaining tread. Is it different in California?

 

[eggpaul]

Whoa. CS told you it's a 20-30 mile range reduction for the ATs? That seems extreme. I would have expected no more than 10 miles of impact. Might need to rethink my wheel choice.

No, they never mentioned that. I am just throwing something out there

 

[eggpaul]

In Colorado, even when chain laws are in effect, if you have AWD or 4WD, you don't need to carry chains if you have AS tires or better with appropriate remaining tread. Is it different in California?

I've always seen the statement "chains or AWD".

 

[eggpaul]

I also have the 20” AT option and the main reason is for the after market options. I fully expected the more aggressive tread to have a negative impact on range, but after going through an odd size on our Model X a few years ago, I’d rather take an initial hit on range with the aggressive tread and have more options when I need/decide to get new tires. Worst case- I buy a second set of rims with more range friendly tires on them.

Oh that is an angle I didn't think about. Are you saying you would be able to buy 20 inch all season tires later on?

 

[BigE]

Can't find the thread for the AT tires, but maybe someone can help me out a bit. Right now I have the AT tire/wheel combo, but not sure what the pros and cons are compared to the 21 inch all season. CS said they both have a great smooth ride. I live in Southern CA. Plan to go to Mammoth once a year or so. I do go skiing in the local mountains often. Just wondering if I need the AT tires. Is it worth a 20-30 mile range reduction? Why are they $1800 more than the 21 inch tires (for non LE holders)? Is the tire more expensive, or the wheel?

The 20” wheels are forged which is typically better/stronger vs 21” & 22” are cast.

 

[eggpaul]

I don’t know what makes them more expensive, but if you aren’t going off-road and you regularly go to the ski areas then your biggest concern may be related to which wheel and tire combo will allow you to buy and install tire chains. Maybe I’m too chicken, but when I go into the mountains and you’re required to have chains with you, I have chains which fit.

I think the 20” AT has the biggest rolling diameter so there is a chance that clearance will be an issue and it could be that the chains cost more as the size goes up. Maybe?

If you’re not as literal about the snow chains requirement then this probably isn’t a concern for you. I figured I’d mention this in case it is an issue for you to consider.

I've always seen people with AWD without chains in the mountains. Not sure I have seen a vehicle with AWD + chains.

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