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No, you should have it in all generations and all variations
I guess I don't know where to find " Settings > Driver+ > Regen Brake Assist. "

In settings I have no "driver +" option. I have a "driver assistance" option but there's nothing about "regen brake assist" in any of those options. Here are some screenshots:

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I wished that Rivian had a rolling setting so that when coming to stop, it does not go into hold.

As for the blended braking, I never use it. I see no need for it - ever. Perfectly capable of recognizing variable deceleration rates and use the brake when needed. I have my regen set to standard for in town driving and in heavy traffic. On long(er) highway runs, regen is set to low.
I never knew there was a setting before this thread. So my brakes were helping the whole time. Bleh. One of my favorite things about EVs is the longevity of the pads due to regen. I’ve since turned the setting off
 
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I never knew there was a setting before this thread. So my brakes were helping the whole time. Bleh. One of my favorite things about EVs is the longevity of the pads due to regen. I’ve since turned the setting off
Yes, I think this is the best - this way you control the friction braking in 90% of the time. Otherwise, especially when regen is limited, it will just eat your breaks during 10k miles. And overheat them (as it will not pump, but instead apply the same amount of breaking)
 

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Maybe it's not available on standard pack models.
Very strange - so that means either you do not have it (and that is good), or it is always ON, and that is really bad...
 

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I have owned 4 Teslas and never had this issue. I have never had this issue on hybrids or ICE cars. considering we are seeing consistent inside wear, it is a manufacturing issue no reason from the factory the inside pad is shot at 50k miles while the outsides have 90% remaining.
My 2015 Model S had this issue. Front pads were all but seized at 5 years and 50k miles.

Yes, I think this is the best - this way you control the friction braking in 90% of the time. Otherwise, especially when regen is limited, it will just eat your breaks during 10k miles. And overheat them (as it will not pump, but instead apply the same amount of breaking)
Not sure why you believe manual application of the brakes will yield less brake wear than if a servo does it. Turning off brake assist doesn't give you more regen; it only makes up in friction brake force what is unavailable by regen due to a cold battery. It will not overheat your brakes.

I think the biggest shortcoming in automatic brake application is that from Driver+ which seems to use the brakes vs. regen, but that's not something you can control unless you never engage D+ or TACC. But this is still not going to "eat your brakes."
 
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I think the biggest shortcoming in automatic brake application is that from Driver+ which seems to use the brakes vs. regen, but that's not something you can control unless you never engage D+ or TACC. But this is still not going to "eat your brakes."
I don't think we have hard data on D+ using physical brakes. This seems to be one of those rumors that someone mentioned they 'thought' it worked this way and it continuously becomes parroted within an echo chamber to the point where everyone accepts it as true.

Firstly, I use Highway Assist more than most. My brakes still have full pad. I have a 150 mile/day commute (round trip) and my truck has over 36,000 miles. If this was the way they functioned, one would assume I'd be seeing SOME wear at this point.

I sincerely believe the brakes are only recruited *when necessary* based on my anecdotal experience. I get other people share their anecdotes, but in this instance, it's not universal, and I don't believe we have anything in the manual or from Rivian stating it's engineered that way.
 

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My 2015 Model S had this issue. Front pads were all but seized at 5 years and 50k miles.



Not sure why you believe manual application of the brakes will yield less brake wear than if a servo does it. Turning off brake assist doesn't give you more regen; it only makes up in friction brake force what is unavailable by regen due to a cold battery. It will not overheat your brakes.

I think the biggest shortcoming in automatic brake application is that from Driver+ which seems to use the brakes vs. regen, but that's not something you can control unless you never engage D+ or TACC. But this is still not going to "eat your brakes."
I don't think you understand why manual is better than an automatic system. With auto on it can be using brakes where regen would work and you have no say in when the car thinks to apply the brakes vs regen. In manual mode brakes aren't used unless you apply the brake, so 90% you are using regen. In the blended mode my guess is that regen drops to 70% of the time. This will lead to faster pad wear. Also, service confirmed this on my first 7,500 mile service. Service quote, " I would turn the auto blending off if you want to maintain your brakes life, in auto mode it uses the brakes significantly more than with it turned off."
 

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I am in TX, the truck is in the garage and I am not doing any offroading. There is no reason for caliper pistons to stuck unless they were not greased initially.
Caliper pistons are "greased" by the brake fluid, which is going to age regardless of use. If you live somewhere dry, your fluid will last longer than if you're somewhere that has regular high humidity. Rivian is recommending brake fluid flushes every three years, but they aren't testing your existing fluid at all to help inform you for next flush.

The guide pins shouldn't be tight enough to cause issues on the monobloc design. The wear you're seeing could be due to the brake pad interface not being parallel with the brake rotor, and there's a ton of things between both of those things that can be the cause of that.


I feel like the indicator is there, just likely not glaringly obvious what is happening to the majority of drivers.
If the Regen Brake Assist option is turned on, I would assume it is using some amount of hydraulic braking unless you see that you are getting full regen power from the power meter. Not the most concise indicator but, its there.

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Regen Brake Assist doesn't differentiate between type of braking, it's green all the way to the bottom even if you have no regen available at all. I wish they'd make it differentiate.
 

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The setting is not specified in my system, it is assumed in the High Regen setting. My guess is the "High" means "Hydrolic" braking, vs motor recharge.
 
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The setting is not specified in my system, it is assumed in the High Regen setting. My guess is the "High" means "Hydrolic" braking, vs motor recharge.
No, High means it will use regen more aggressively. It has nothing to do with friction breaks
 

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Most plausible theory for uneven wear, from another thread, is inadequate lubrication on the pins, preventing pads from floating freely. Trivia, in any car, rear brakes are much slower wearing because most of the braking is done at the front.

The setting is not specified in my system, it is assumed in the High Regen setting. My guess is the "High" means "Hydrolic" braking, vs motor recharge.
Brake assist was introduced with OTA 2023.50.01. Settings > Driver+ > Regen Brake Assist. It's set to on by default, hence, referred in other posts as an opt-out if you wish not to have it. As described in the onboard UI, it blends in the hydraulic brakes as needed under certain conditions—where regen is reduced due to high SOC or during long descents. What isn't known is if the hydraulic brakes are also used, without driver's knowledge, outside of these conditions. And some people are speculating it does because of the uneven wear they are observing.

What IS known... brakes are used each time you come to a stop and auto-hold is automatically engaged. Anyone know if it's just parking brakes? this part I'm not certain of.
 
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No, High means it will use regen more aggressively. It has nothing to do with friction breaks
Are you sure? I thought I read here on site from one of the Geeks that the brakes were applied in regen slowing or just letting up on acclelerator causing the vehicle to come to a stop. If high regen is selected, the brakes were implemented.
 
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Are you sure? I thought I read here on site from one of the Geeks that the brakes were applied in regen slowing or just letting up on acclelerator causing the vehicle to come to a stop. If high regen is selected, the brakes were implemented.
I am confident in what I mentioned. The high regen will draw more power from the motors to the battery to increase deceleration. Friction brakes are used in all modes when you reach ~1mph to make a final stop.
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