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In late December we took delivery of our new (2025) R1T, Dual motor max-pack (Sarge).

My Wife and I had been planning a two-week road trip to hit as many ski areas as possible, so this was going to be a "proof-of-concept" roadtrip to see how well Sarge would perform.

Our routing took us from Seattle to Schweitzer ski resort in Idaho, Heber City, Utah, where we skied Dear Valley, Sundance, and Canyons ski resort in Park City. Note: My profile picture is of our arrival in Heber City. Apparantly it drew the attention of several four-legged observors. On the drive home to Seattle, we stopped at Sun Valley, another "first" for us.

Prior to our departure I did splurge on getting Sarge wrapped (PPF) in a mat finish. I think it was an investment well spent because of the protection it provided from all the chemicals that are sprayed on the Winter snow-covered roads.

All told we put over 2,500 miles on our Riv.

Here are my takeaways, notes, suggestions, and lessons learned:

1: “Sarge” operated flawlessly the entire trip with no issues whatsoever. I drove in “All Purpose” mode 99.5% of the time, even on snow covered roads. The one time I lost a bit of traction in “All Purpose” mode Sarge notified me that it was automatically switching to 4-wheel drive traction mode. I didn’t even know that was a “thing.”

2: Bring a bottle of Windex and a rag. The sensors and cameras can/will get covered up with road grime, especially on snow covered/plowed roads. I really became dependent on the adaptive cruise control and autopilot assist system. If you don’t keep the sensors/camera lenses clean, you will lose those features right when you need them the most.

3. If you want accurate range calculations, always have your destination set in the Nav display. I found that the predicted mileage remaining (bottom left of center nav display) at your destination/charging stop was extremely accurate IF I drove the speed limit. There are a lot of factors that go into the calculation for miles remaining at the next stop display (Temp, wind speed, incline, speed limit, etc.). These factors alone make the monthly Rivian subscription worth it.

3a. While driving on a long leg, worry less about the SOC and concentrate more on the center display of miles at next stop. If those miles start decreasing or the charge bar turns yellow, slow down and the numbers will start reversing.

4. I signed up for the $11.99 per month Tesla charging membership. It was well worth it. The charging rate was around $0.30/kw at Tesla Superchargers. Other chargers were usually double that rate. Now that I am home I’ve cancelled the membership until my next roadtrip.

5. If you have a Tesla Level 2 charger at home (sold my model 3), bring your home NACS to CCS adapter. We stayed two nights at Sun Valley resort. They had a FREE Tesla level 2 charger in the parking lot. Without my home adapter with me I couldn’t take advantage of the free energy.

6. Next time I will also bring my non-hardwired level 2 charger and stash it under the back seat. We stayed with a friend for several days in Utah. He had a 50 amp welding socket in his garage. A simple plug adapter from Home Depot and I could have used my lvl 2 charger. Instead, I had to use the 120 Volt “trickle” charger that came with the vehicle. It would provide about 25 miles charge per night, just enough to get to the ski mountain and back every day. With no commercial chargers within a 20 mile radius, the trickle charger “saved our bacon.”

Well that’s about it. If I come up with any more tidbits of wisdom from the trip, I’ll pass them along.




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Great advice, but not a single road trip photo?

 

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HankTheTank wants to know if Serge is a tri motor or dual?
Mind sharing start-end destination? I just skipping on a trip to SLC via Nevada due to the very few chargers.
 

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Just returned home from a 2,500 mile ski resort loop in my 2025 R1T (Sarge).

Here are my takeaways, notes, suggestions, and lessons learned:

1: “Sarge” operated flawlessly the entire trip. I drove in “All Purpose” mode 99.5% of the time, even on snow covered roads. The one time I lost a bit of traction in “All Purpose” mode Sarge notified me that it was automatically switching to 4-wheel drive traction mode. I didn’t even know that was a “thing.”

2: Bring a bottle of Windex and a rag. The sensors and cameras can/will get covered up with road grime, especially on snow covered/plowed roads. I really became dependent on the adaptive cruise control and autopilot assist system. If you don’t keep the sensors/camera lenses clean, you will lose those features right when you need them the most.

3. If you want accurate range calculations, always have your destination set in the Nav display. I found that the predicted mileage remaining (bottom left of center nav display) at your destination/charging stop was extremely accurate IF I drove the speed limit. There are a lot of factors that go into the calculation for miles remaining at the next stop display (Temp, wind speed, incline, speed limit, etc.). These factors alone make the monthly Rivian subscription worth it.

3a. While driving on a long leg, worry less about the SOC and concentrate more on the center display of miles at next stop. If those miles start decreasing or the charge bar turns yellow, slow down and the numbers will start reversing.

4. I signed up for the $11.99 per month Tesla charging membership. It was well worth it. The charging rate was around $0.30/kw at Tesla Superchargers. Other chargers were usually double that rate. Now that I am home I’ve cancelled the membership until my next roadtrip.

5. If you have a Tesla Level 2 charger at home (sold my model 3), bring your home NACS to CCS adapter. We stayed two nights at Sun Valley resort. They had a FREE Tesla level 2 charger in the parking lot. Without my home adapter with me I couldn’t take advantage of the free energy.

6. Next time I will also bring my non-hardwired level 2 charger and stash it under the back seat. We stayed with a friend for several days in Utah. He had a 50 amp welding socket in his garage. A simple plug adapter from Home Depot and I could have used my lvl 2 charger. Instead, I had to use the 120 Volt “trickle” charger that came with the vehicle. It would provide about 25 miles charge per night, just enough to get to the ski mountain and back every day. With no commercial chargers within a 20 mile radius, the trickle charger “saved our bacon.”

Well that’s about it. If I come up with any more tidbits of wisdom from the trip, I’ll pass them along.




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What do you mean when you say bring your home NACS to CSS adaptor? Is that different than the adaptor you used at Tesla superchargers?
 

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What do you mean when you say bring your home NACS to CSS adaptor? Is that different than the adaptor you used at Tesla superchargers?
You can't use your Level 3 DCFC adapter on a Level 2 AC charger.

I would recommend the A2Z Stellar NACS to J-1772 adapter which is available for $88, compact build, has a built in lock, good customer service / warranty and overbuilt for futureproofing.

This adapter is used with Tesla destination chargers commonly found at hotels / shopping center / parking lots.

The level 2 Stellar adapter will pay for itself overtime by avoiding an expensive fast charge on the road every night while you sleep at the hotel with Tesla destination charging.

You can use the same Tesla Find Us link to locate Tesla Level 2 destination chargers.

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Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Some very useful tips.

I also ski, usually in the Wasatch, which is some distance from home in SE Pennsylvania. I thought about using the R1T for this year's trip, but was apprehensive about being able to successfully navigate across the several charging deserts between PA and UT. Hopefully the charging infrastructure will improve in the coming years to alleviate that, but the recent indications point to that likely being later rather than sooner.
 

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What do you mean when you say bring your home NACS to CSS adaptor? Is that different than the adaptor you used at Tesla superchargers?
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Some very useful tips.

I also ski, usually in the Wasatch, which is some distance from home in SE Pennsylvania. I thought about using the R1T for this year's trip, but was apprehensive about being able to successfully navigate across the several charging deserts between PA and UT. Hopefully the charging infrastructure will improve in the coming years to alleviate that, but the recent indications point to that likely being later rather than sooner.
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Some very useful tips.

I also ski, usually in the Wasatch, which is some distance from home in SE Pennsylvania. I thought about using the R1T for this year's trip, but was apprehensive about being able to successfully navigate across the several charging deserts between PA and UT. Hopefully the charging infrastructure will improve in the coming years to alleviate that, but the recent indications point to that likely being later rather than sooner.
I think best practice. Bring NACS to CCS, NACS to j1772 and your mobile charger kit. I’d also add an RV plug adapter too.
 
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What do you mean when you say bring your home NACS to CSS adaptor? Is that different than the adaptor you used at Tesla superchargers?
Yes it is. The NACS to J1772 adapter for the home (Tesla) Level 2 charger is different from the one provided by Rivian for use at Tesla Superchargers. The adapter for the Superchargers has the additional plugs (CCS) and is bulkier than the J1772 plug that attaches to the "Tesla at-home" connector...The adapters look similar but they don't work the same.
 
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How was your average efficiency?

Looks like a great trip!
 
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HankTheTank wants to know if Serge is a tri motor or dual?
Mind sharing start-end destination? I just skipping on a trip to SLC via Nevada due to the very few chargers.
It is a Dual Motor with Max pack. I just updated the trip details...Seattle was our origin and ultimate destination.
 

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Yes, great write up, thank you! I just returned from a 2300 mile trip that took me from the Portland OR Metro Area to Borrego Springs, CA and back. Slillie, you saved me a lot of keyboard time.... TY. I concur with every observation you posted. For what it is worth, here are some of my own:

  1. Some of the mega Tesla charging station along I-5 in Calif's Central Valley have washer stations, just like gas stations for doing windows and anything else that needs cleaning.
  2. On my trip south, I charged to 80% SOC. On the way home, I charged to 70% SOC. Same number of charging stops both ways (5) but reduced my time per charge on average by 12 min. charging to 70% SOC. Even though I had a lower start SOC, the lower finishing SOC save me time. The Tesla Supperchargers consistently delivered > 200 kW up to ~ 60% SOC. After that, they would start dropping. But at 70% SOC they were still at 130 - 150 kW. > 70% SOC, they would be between 90-110 kW.
  3. Concur, Tesla monthly membership pays for itself after 1 charge session.
  4. On my trip south, my bike was inside. On the way home, I had it on the hitch bike rack (see pic). It did not seem to impact my efficiency. Difference in efficiency was 0.11. 2.86 mi/kW going south and 2.75 mi/kW coming North. But there were enough other variables that could account for the difference. For example, I had a tailwind on the way down, and some headwind on the way home.
  5. I kept my speed at ~ 65 mph for the majority of my trip, even in the 70 mph zones (there were a few exceptions). I just not in a hurry and found it more relaxing. I also found that following in a semi's draft with driver assist on and setting the following distance on either of the two farthest positions (I counted them as 3 sec & 4 sec) improved my efficiency, as one would expect. On a bike, being in the draft of other cyclist reduces your energy requirements on flat roads on average by 30%. Interestingly, I saw about a 10% - 15% improvement in the Rivian. This was easy to test on the long flat straights of Calif's. Central Valley. Just move to the other lane and watch the 15 min efficiency avg. change. The biggest challenge was finding a semi going the right speed.

Finally, a HUGE thank you to Ronnie and Samual at the the Rivian Eastvale SC. On my trip south, I noticed an alignment issue. The vehicle was drifting to the right which required counter steering to the left. Pretty annoying. Oddly, driver assistance still worked fine which was great since I didn't have to battle the vehicle. My wife suggested calling a Rivian SC in the area to see if they could help. Since I had stopped to do some rides in the San Gabriel Mtn's over the weekend, I saw that the Eastvale SC was on my way to Borrego Springs. So on Tuesday morning 2/11 before I headed off to Borrego Springs, I stopped off at the Eastvale SC and explained my situation. They were so gracious. They took care of it that morning. I even had time to go for a 2 hour ride in the Chino Hills while they serviced the vehicle. ?

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Thank you for the nice write-up! Great information and advice!
 

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Just got back from a road trip to far north central WI. The one thing I’d add is bring even the 110v plug. Where we stayed it was about 40 minutes to a level 2 charger but the cabin had a basic outdoor outlet. I planned to arrive at the cabin with 70% and trickle charge every day. We ventured out for snowy hikes every day around 9-10 and got back around 1-3pm. Immediately I put it on charge. While I used up 20% during the day driving I could typically get 10-15% back from afternoon and evening trickle charging. This was enough to not worry about the battery. It was also frigid getting down to 1 degree which could eat up the battery quick when getting in the next day

Either way bring the 110v and even a heavy duty extension cord, it can help to get even 10% back slowly.

Side note, Northern WI and the UP is gorgeous and I recommend it. The R1S handled the snow brilliantly while we were up there. Nothing like being the first to lay tracks on some freshly fallen snow.
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