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It’s rare that I ever run in to a person ICEing a charger while they’re at their vehicle.

The few times I have, I’ve very politely mentioned that these are for electric vehicles to charge, don’t demand they move (and only even ask if all other stalls are full.)

Today at a RAN, a Sprinter camper van (NOT EV) was parked in the trailer stall. This is at Lincoln City, Oregon, where the trailer stall is at the end of a row of “RVs and vehicles with trailers” extra long parking stalls. Only the end one is RAN, the other RAN are in normal length stalls around a corner.

As I plugged in, a man and small kid approached the Sprinter. Figuring they were leaving. I didn’t bother even mentioning.

A couple minutes later, they got out and started to walk away. So I politely said something. He immediately went “all the other RV spots were full when I arrived:” And he started walking back to his van “I see they’re open now,”

“I get it, lots of people use the RV spots when they’re not supposed to. I’m just letting you know for next time,” and I started to walk away.

He then continued to rant about the parking lot having been full when he arrived, and how I’m using an RV spot. (I wasn’t. I was in one of the short RAN.)

So I calmly explained that they were charging stalls, and the one he was in was for vehicles towing.

He started ranting more; so I decided to disengage.

“You must be an Oregonian!” - officially the strangest “insult” I’ve ever gotten. (Note; yes I am, and this charger is located at least 2.5 hours away from any other state.)

“Uh, better than being whatever asshole state you’re from, I’m just going to head over to security now,”

“Fine, I’ll have ‘em tow you, too!” (I’m not sure why security would tow me,)

Walked away, security office was about 30’ away. Knocked. Guy started yelling something I ignored. Security went and had a 10+ minute chat with him and he left. I waited until Sprinter was gone to head back, thanked the security guy, who replied “yeah, I don’t know what that guy’s problem was.”
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People are the worst. Sounds like you handled it better than I would have.

 

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“all the other RV spots were full when I arrived:” And he started walking back to his van “I see they’re open now,”
There are "electric vehicle charging only" signs right? It's no excuse. It isn't an RV spot. It's that "I'm just going to do it and I don't care" mentality... and offender playing victim in order to save wounded pride.
 

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There are "electric vehicle charging only" signs right? It's no excuse. It isn't an RV spot. It's that "I'm just going to do it and I don't care" mentality... and offender playing victim in order to save wounded pride.
Yes, although the paint on the pavement at the “out” end of the stalls is heavily worn, now the “EV” looks close to the (also worn) “RV” of all the spots further down the line.
 

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There are "electric vehicle charging only" signs right? It's no excuse. It isn't an RV spot. It's that "I'm just going to do it and I don't care" mentality... and offender playing victim in order to save wounded pride.
I don't understand why RANs and other charging spots don't also put a second sign plate in red lettering that says something like "EVs while charging only. $150 fine for violations. Towing Enforced". Why just use a carrot when you can use both a carrot and a stick?
 

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I don't understand why RANs and other charging spots don't also put a second sign plate in red lettering that says something like "EVs while charging only. $150 fine for violations. Towing Enforced". Why just use a carrot when you can use both a carrot and a stick?
Because different jurisdictions have different laws. And unless Rivian is the property owner, it's up to prerogative of actual landlord to monitor/report/enforce. I think most RAN locations are leased. The Outposts might be owned by Rivian.
 

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I don't understand why RANs and other charging spots don't also put a second sign plate in red lettering that says something like "EVs while charging only. $150 fine for violations. Towing Enforced". Why just use a carrot when you can use both a carrot and a stick?
There isn't always a stick, though. Many are on private property and unless state or local law provides criminality, it would be a civil matter.
 

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Because different jurisdictions have different laws. And unless Rivian is the property owner, it's up to prerogative of actual landlord to monitor/report/enforce. I think most RAN locations are leased. The Outposts might be owned by Rivian.
Lessees generally have the same rights as land owners when it comes to acceptable use, but I wholly agree with your sentiment.
 

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Why don't they paint the EV stalls a bright color with the words EV painted as well. Install a sensor on the charging station that senses when a vehicle is parked in that stall and if they don't start the charge in a min. or 2, it says "You are parked illegally, please move".

I know CODgman and Count Orlak would laugh it off, but, they are a little off as is.....LOLOL
 

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“You must be an Oregonian!” - officially the strangest “insult” I’ve ever gotten. (Note; yes I am, and this charger is located at least 2.5 hours away from any other state.)
“You must be an Oregonian!” = Active-travel-happy-outdoor-nature-lover-adventurer who is interested in keeping EV charging spaces open for EV charging??

Ok, I can live with that as a fellow Oregonian.
 

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Made doubly awkward for all by the fact that he had his kid with him. Sorry you had to deal with that.
 

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Most people understand it’s bad form to leave a car parked in front of a gas pump while they go inside to eat lunch or whatever. Hopefully it’s a matter of time before charging stalls are viewed the same. Unfortunately the lack of courtesy extends even to some EV owners currently and people often don’t like being called out on their bad behavior in public.
 
 








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