Tesla nefarious behavior?

[SASSquatch]

3.6 billion miles using FSD. According to average stat, 36 people should have died and technically more since Tesla is supposedly a high death rate brand. Go ahead and find me those 36 people

In fact almost 3 billion miles with no death is pretty good

Because you can believe anything EM or Tesla says....

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[pamalabama]

That’s great. Except you already admitted you have no idea how many deaths and injuries have involved Tesla autonomous driving systems, remember? You tried to point me to a crowdsourced website that doesn’t include injuries, close calls, potentially dangerous illegal driving like going the wrong way around roundabouts, etc., etc…

Tesla could answer all those questions by releasing the raw data to be analyzed. There must be a reason they won’t do that….

Keep spinning Bob

Because these are not people dying

Car doesn't go the wrong way around roundabouts. Sorry it doesn't happen.

If people were getting injured with FSD these accidents would be known. Again they aren't happening.

The reason that tesla FSD exists today is because there has not been a single at-fault death using FSD.

The first one happened because a truck pulled out in front of the car and the FSD user set his speed to an illegal level.

 

[COdogman]

Because these are not people dying

Car doesn't go the wrong way around roundabouts. Sorry it doesn't happen.

If people were getting injured with FSD these accidents would be known. Again they aren't happening.

The reason that tesla FSD exists today is because there has not been a single at-fault death using FSD.

The first one happened because a truck pulled out in front of the car and the FSD user set his speed to an illegal level.

We have been over this so many times that it's just sad, honestly. Just because you say "it would be known" does not make it true. You were asked to back up that sad statement with proof and you suggested I monitor the news and "Tesladeaths.com"

Tesla has the data to prove their systems are as safe as they claim, or even more dangerous than we can imagine.... They won't release it. One of those answers makes them look very good and would provide a good sales pitch - the other is a death sentence for the company. You can figure out for yourself why they chose the path they did.

 

[pamalabama]

We have been over this so many times that it's just sad, honestly. Just because you say "it would be known" does not make it true. You were asked to back up that sad statement with proof and you suggested I monitor the news and "Tesladeaths.com"

Tesla has the data to prove their systems are as safe as they claim, or even more dangerous than we can imagine.... They won't release it. One of those answers makes them look very good and would provide a good sales pitch - the other is a death sentence for the company. You can figure out for yourself why they chose the path they did.

tesla posts a chart and people don't accept that it's the truth.

Tesla has data on disengagements which has no usefulness as people disengage just because they feel like driving

In fact, how many airbag-deploying accidents has FSD prevented? I would imagine a fair amount

Statistically over 3.6 billion miles you would expect at least 7200 accidents. What exactly do you want to see?

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Because these are not people dying

Car doesn't go the wrong way around roundabouts. Sorry it doesn't happen.

If people were getting injured with FSD these accidents would be known. Again they aren't happening.

The reason that tesla FSD exists today is because there has not been a single at-fault death using FSD.

The first one happened because a truck pulled out in front of the car and the FSD user set his speed to an illegal level.

More people have burned to death in Cybertrucks than the Ford Pinto.

 

[pamalabama]

More people have burned to death in Cybertrucks than the Ford Pinto.

Are you just making stuff up at this point? 27 people burned to death in a ford pinto

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Are you just making stuff up at this point? 27 people burned to death in a ford pinto

And more people than that have burned to death in CTs

https://fuelarc.com/evs/its-official-the-cybertruck-is-more-explosive-than-the-ford-pinto/

 

[COdogman]

tesla posts a chart and people don't accept that it's the truth.

Tesla has data on disengagements which has no usefulness as people disengage just because they feel like driving

In fact, how many airbag-deploying accidents has FSD prevented? I would imagine a fair amount

Statistically over 3.6 billion miles you would expect at least 7200 accidents. What exactly do you want to see?

"You imagine..."

You're right - no one would believe anything released by Tesla because their CEO is a pathological liar. I've explained to you many times what the data would and should show.

 

[pamalabama]

And more people than that have burned to death in CTs

https://fuelarc.com/evs/its-official-the-cybertruck-is-more-explosive-than-the-ford-pinto/

Did you even read your link? 5 people died in a cybertruck fire.

misleading as 1 of them was the arsonist who filled the truck with fireworks, and three of them were from one crash.

Ford pinto was a small vehicle with a top speed of 90mph and a 0-60 of 17 seconds. Painfully slow

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Did you even read your link? 5 people died in a cybertruck fire.

misleading as 1 of them was the arsonist who filled the truck with fireworks, and three of them were from one crash.

Ford pinto was a small vehicle

YOU didn't read it, because if you correct for the number of units on the road you are 17X more likely to die in a CT fire than a Pinto. There were 3 million pintos and 27 deaths, there are 40K CTs and 5 fire deaths.

 

[pamalabama]

YOU didn't read it, because if you correct for the number of units on the road you are 17X more likely to die in a CT fire than a Pinto. There were 3 million pintos and 27 deaths, there are 40K CTs and 5 fire deaths.

You commented that more people have died in a cybertruck fire than a ford pinto. That's not true.

Ford pinto was a small vehicle with a top speed of 90mph and a 0-60 of 17 seconds. Painfully slow

Also the teenagers that died were under the influence of alcohol, marijuana and cocaine

 

[Donald Stanfield]

You commented that more people have died in a cybertruck fire than a ford pinto. That's not true.

Ford pinto was a small vehicle with a top speed of 90mph and a 0-60 of 17 seconds. Painfully slow

Also the teenagers that died were under the influence of alcohol, marijuana and cocaine

More people have died PER UNIT. You are 17X more likely to burn to death in a CT than you were in a Pinto. Those are the facts.

 

[pamalabama]

More people have died PER UNIT. You are 17X more likely to burn to death in a CT than you were in a Pinto. Those are the facts.

More people have died per unit. Why didn't you say that before? That's right, because you like to misrepresent the facts.

Secondly, seems pretty shady to count a death that happened because a truck was filled with fireworks?

 

[COdogman]

More people have died per unit. Why didn't you say that before? That's right, because you like to misrepresent the facts.

Secondly, seems pretty shady to count a death that happened because a truck was filled with fireworks?

 

[Donald Stanfield]

More people have died per unit. Why didn't you say that before? That's right, because you like to misrepresent the facts.

Secondly, seems pretty shady to count a death that happened because a truck was filled with fireworks?

I didn't misrepresent anything. What I said was true; unlike you, I sourced my claim. You are 17 times more likely to burn to death in a CT than a Pinto, and they should all be pulled for how deadly they are. Even if we excluded the fireworks death you are significantly more likely to burn to death in a CT than a pinto.

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