Poll: Would you buy your Rivian again?

[hammick]

Sure but its likely hammick viewed, looked to vote, did not find it, went to comment, was forced to login then commented - as happened to me.

I see no option to vote. I logged out and back in, still nothing.

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[DayTripping]

At the top of the thread, this is what I see to vote.

 

[hammick]

At the top of the thread, this is what I see to vote.

Thanks. I see this.

 

[DayTripping]

Try opening up a browser, not the app. If hat doesn't work, try a browser in incognito mode and logging in there.

 

[hammick]

Try opening up a browser, not the app. If hat doesn't work, try a browser in incognito mode and logging in there.

Thanks. I've tried the app, Safari and Chrome all on my MacBook. No dice. Cleard cache and restarted still doesn't show. I'll try later from a Windows laptop I have.

Has anyone successfully voted using a MacBook and Safari?

 

[csharp]

Thanks. I see this.

It is because you already voted. It shows your vote as "RIT Owner: Yes"

 

[Russya]

I'm aware those with issues are more vocal on forums than those without.

My family wants a third-row vehicle and we love the concept of an EV. While we can afford to budget around $60k, we can't afford mistakes with big purchases and a lot of the common gripes on this forum do make us nervous.

But the styling, interior comfort, and off-road capabilities keep us coming back to the R1S. If we eventually decided to move forward, it'd be for a used 2022-2023 R1S, hopefully quad-motor.

The biggest issues as I understand them are:
1. Vampire drain/sudden death due to 12v battery that is too small (yes, I see trickle charge solutions, but having to do this for a supposed 'luxury SUV' feels absurd). This seems catastrophic if the 12v suddenly fails while on a camping trip, or stopped for a rest on a road trip in remote area, etc, though it appears the issue affects R1T more than R1S? (true/false?). And that a dead EV shuts down the vehicle entirely (cant access interior, battery compartment, etc).
2. A service network that is less extensive than other major car manufacturers (less of an issue for us as we live in SoCal which has numerous service centers within ~25mi radius). But - you never know where life will take you and perhaps eventually we're in an underserved area.
3. Early model years that hadn't quite ironed out kinks regarding suspension, drivetrain, even simple fit/finish compared to newer 2024-25 models (which are too expensive for us).

And categorically, its always nerve-wracking to be shopping for relatively young new cars from a startup manufacturer. It's hard not to wonder "whats wrong" with a particular car when people are looking to get out of it after just a couple years. Are we overthinking this, or is the due diligence warranted here?


Perhaps the simplest way to assess these concerns is asking owners:
If you could go back in time... Would you buy your Rivian again?
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as an owner of a very early R1S quad I can tell you that worry number 1 isn’t really an issue I even think about. And number 3 is actually kind of the opposite for me, after driving my nephews gen 2 and a few demo drives of tri motors. I much prefer my 1st gen(meridian sound, real door handles, forest edge interior, etc)

issue number 2 is a legitimate problem and depending where you live it could more pronounced than others.

 

[hammick]

It is because you already voted. It shows your vote as "RIT Owner: Yes"

Whoops. Thanks for solving the mystery. I don't own an R1T but I'd buy my R1S again. I'm nominating myself for the dumbass of the week award.

 

[Tleyse]

I'm aware those with issues are more vocal on forums than those without.

My family wants a third-row vehicle and we love the concept of an EV. While we can afford to budget around $60k, we can't afford mistakes with big purchases and a lot of the common gripes on this forum do make us nervous.

But the styling, interior comfort, and off-road capabilities keep us coming back to the R1S. If we eventually decided to move forward, it'd be for a used 2022-2023 R1S, hopefully quad-motor.

The biggest issues as I understand them are:
1. Vampire drain/sudden death due to 12v battery that is too small (yes, I see trickle charge solutions, but having to do this for a supposed 'luxury SUV' feels absurd). This seems catastrophic if the 12v suddenly fails while on a camping trip, or stopped for a rest on a road trip in remote area, etc, though it appears the issue affects R1T more than R1S? (true/false?). And that a dead EV shuts down the vehicle entirely (cant access interior, battery compartment, etc).
2. A service network that is less extensive than other major car manufacturers (less of an issue for us as we live in SoCal which has numerous service centers within ~25mi radius). But - you never know where life will take you and perhaps eventually we're in an underserved area.
3. Early model years that hadn't quite ironed out kinks regarding suspension, drivetrain, even simple fit/finish compared to newer 2024-25 models (which are too expensive for us).

And categorically, its always nerve-wracking to be shopping for relatively young new cars from a startup manufacturer. It's hard not to wonder "whats wrong" with a particular car when people are looking to get out of it after just a couple years. Are we overthinking this, or is the due diligence warranted here?


Perhaps the simplest way to assess these concerns is asking owners:
If you could go back in time... Would you buy your Rivian again?

I would buy again. I love my R1S and have had no issues... just a couple of minor ones after a couple of software updates where I had to turn off my garage door when near home setting and turn it back on again. I'm spending, with overnight off rate charging at home, about 1/4 per mile for electricity over gas (my old smaller SUV got about 22mpg). The only thing I regret is it sounds like the promise of self driving won't be fully realized in version 1... wish there was the ability to upgrade cameras and the brains so I could do it. But nonetheless, every update makes it better.

 

[hannahman]

I voted no on my R1T with 40k miles, but like many others still love the truck. I have had some service issues that require me to drive 3+ hours roundtrip to drop off and return home. Enough of them that not sure what I will do when the warranty runs out. If there was a factory warranty available I may consider again, however there are alternatives out there that did not exist before that either cost less or have great lease deals so harder to see value.

 

[2kwik4u]

Interesting timing on this thread. Just this weekend, I was infuriatingly locked out of my truck due to tech issues with PAAK and the access card. THEN, received a "how has your first 6mo been" survey from Rivian.

On that survey, there was a question; ranked from 1-10, how likely are you to buy another Rivian? 1 being absolutely not and 10 being definitely yes. I answered 1, then added, only because 0 is not an available option. PAAK, digital vents, and a non-opening sunroof (that part I knew going in) will keep me from buying another one.

Hope someone at Rivian actually gets the feedback, although I doubt any of those 3 features will change in any upcoming model.

 

[MacO512]

Worry #1 is yes silly to even be an issue as the 12v is very underpowered. But it can be planned for and mitigated. I have tools to manually open the R1S frunk in the hitch, and in the frunk a 30Ah lifepo that can jump or even run in place of the stock 12v.

I actually was stranded earlier this month in my Tesla Mode Y. Had some crazy vampire drain over a week and I arrived from a cruise with it at 0%. A23 battery wouldn't pop open the frunk as I had read it could. Was a mess to fix so I now want to be totally prepared.

Overall had the R1S for about 14 months and one of my favorite vehicles I've ever owned. I'm thinking of how I can eventually replace our Y with the R2... or maybe we just get two R1S's.

I think you'll absolutely love the vehicle the next 4 years.

The only concern I have is long term owning the vehicle. I'm not sure what maintenance will be like at 110k miles after 5 years. The suspension and so much of the vehicle is extremely complex that some of these things might get BMW or more level of expensive to maintain.

Yeah I know theres no engine or oil, but just in the gen2 update for example they cut out 44 lbs of wiring that went for 1.6 miles in each R1.... thats going to be a hell of a disaster if some electrical systems start to have issues.

 

[DayTripping]

Worry #1 is yes silly to even be an issue as the 12v is very underpowered. But it can be planned for and mitigated. I have tools to manually open the R1S frunk in the hitch, and in the frunk a 30Ah lifepo that can jump or even run in place of the stock 12v.

I actually was stranded earlier this month in my Tesla Mode Y. Had some crazy vampire drain over a week and I arrived from a cruise with it at 0%. A23 battery wouldn't pop open the frunk as I had read it could. Was a mess to fix so I now want to be totally prepared.

Overall had the R1S for about 14 months and one of my favorite vehicles I've ever owned. I'm thinking of how I can eventually replace our Y with the R2... or maybe we just get two R1S's.

I think you'll absolutely love the vehicle the next 4 years.

The only concern I have is long term owning the vehicle. I'm not sure what maintenance will be like at 110k miles after 5 years. The suspension and so much of the vehicle is extremely complex that some of these things might get BMW or more level of expensive to maintain.

Yeah I know theres no engine or oil, but just in the gen2 update for example they cut out 44 lbs of wiring that went for 1.6 miles in each R1.... thats going to be a hell of a disaster if some electrical systems start to have issues.

That is why I bought an extended warranty. I plan to keep mine longer.

As for the wiring, I approach it from the view of a mohel. It isn't about how much you cut off, but how much needs to remain. If you don't know, a mohel is the one who performed the ritual circumsion.

So my question to ask, is how much is left? Removing 1+ miles of wiring sounds impressive, but not if there were a very large amount still remaining. Going from 3 miles of wiring down to 2 is more impressive than going from 20 to 19. I glad they did it, but how much is still left. How much do they really need? I am not disparaging the reduction in wiring, but how significant was it really? How much more can be done with Gen3 or the R2 and R3 platforms.

To put this in context, Elon once said the S had about 2 miles of wiring in the S and about 1 mile in the 3. My S has virtually no vampire drain like my 3. So how bad was/is the R1 platform. If they were at 5 miles and down to 3.5, why were they so bad in the first place?

 

[NeedSumCoffee]

I absolutely love my R1S. I still voted no only because the Lucid Gravity is starting production. If the Gravity didnt exist, I would absolutely buy a R1S again. At the time I bought my R1S last year, it was the best EV SUV available. But this year, Id say its 2nd best.

 

[woodcan]

Well, we paid off our lease on the R1T this month. Last night, the husband walked into my office with an old printout of an R1S (from last August) and asked me if I can see what the updated price would be! The gears are turning!

We love our R1T, it's just a solid vehicle. He has is 2015 Nissan Rogue that is about to hit the 160k mile mark Great car, good driver, but... just turned 11. I do believe an R1S is in our future.

I have a 2011 Rogue that is not a great car but gets me from point A to point B. I fear the ticking time bomb of my CVT regardless of fluid changes. I'm waiting on my R1S Dune order another month but having second thoughts vs just going with a Dual Motor Large with fewer options because of uncertainty and the Dune is pricey.

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