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“The question now is whether an executive who oversaw one of Apple’s last big things -- its smartwatch -- can turn a car into its next one.”

If 2025 is a real goal seems like we’d being seeing work towards mfg capability now, more patent applications, more evidence of road testing etc. But in any case I’m rooting for Apple to disrupt the industry.

CarPlay on steroids included, of course.
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It's all fun and games until the self driving Apple car using Apple Maps navigates you into a lake off a bridge that doesn't exist.
 

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It's all fun and games until the self driving Apple car using Apple Maps navigates you into a lake off a bridge that doesn't exist.
As someone who lives mostly in the Apple ecosystem, I definitely feel the pain of how bad Apple Maps was when it first came out. But Apple has made massive improvements with each new release. At this time, I’d say Apple Maps is better than Google Maps in many ways. I think it’s nicer to look at. The routing logic seems to at least match, if not beat Google, at this point. The UI is better. The two areas where Google still wins, in my opinion, are the ability to use the “satellite view” in CarPlay, and the results from voice searches are considerably better with Google. For some reason the sound quality with Google Maps is absolutely attrociouis — when it speaks it sounds like it’s coming through a fast food drive through talk box — but the quality of the search results are great. Siri, by contrast, has excellent sound quality, but she doesn’t always find the result I want.
 

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As someone who lives mostly in the Apple ecosystem, I definitely feel the pain of how bad Apple Maps was when it first came out. But Apple has made massive improvements with each new release. At this time, I’d say Apple Maps is better than Google Maps in many ways. I think it’s nicer to look at. The routing logic seems to at least match, if not beat Google, at this point. The UI is better. The two areas where Google still wins, in my opinion, are the ability to use the “satellite view” in CarPlay, and the results from voice searches are considerably better with Google. For some reason the sound quality with Google Maps is absolutely attrociouis — when it speaks it sounds like it’s coming through a fast food drive through talk box — but the quality of the search results are great. Siri, by contrast, has excellent sound quality, but she doesn’t always find the result I want.
I'd agree that it has gotten a TON better and there are a number of things I very much prefer, but for me Google estimates route times substantially better.
It also seems to handle accidents, construction and other delays better than Apple and I've never had an issue with sound quality??

Recent example: My last trip home from Florida Apple said something a little over 13hrs and Google was a hair over 15hrs. Typically my trips with brief stops and a few mph over the speed limit are about right on to what Google predicts.
I drove through the night, ~3mph over speed limit, stopped two quick times to get fuel and It was about dead on 15hrs.

If Apple could get their estimating better and account for some more conditions as well as incorporating speed trap alerts then I would switch to it. Note: Just looked and it looks like they incorporated the speed trap alerts this year but many are saying they have never had an alert.
 
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If Apple could get their estimating better and account for some more conditions as well as incorporating speed trap alerts then I would switch to it. Note: Just looked and it looks like they incorporated the speed trap alerts this year but many are saying they have never had an alert.
I've not compared recently, but precovid, I found google maps used a lot more battery than apple maps, but both worked really well otherwise. I like some of additional warnings and featurers you get with Waze, but sporadically it turns me around on the map screen and shows me going the wrong direction.
 

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Imagine going back in time and telling the Steve's when they made the Apple I that in 50 years their company would be making watches, phones, and cars. What a world! I've been an Apple user since my grandpa bought my brother and me an Apple //e in '83. Can't wait to see what they do.
 

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As someone who lives mostly in the Apple ecosystem, I definitely feel the pain of how bad Apple Maps was when it first came out. But Apple has made massive improvements with each new release. At this time, I’d say Apple Maps is better than Google Maps in many ways. I think it’s nicer to look at. The routing logic seems to at least match, if not beat Google, at this point. The UI is better. The two areas where Google still wins, in my opinion, are the ability to use the “satellite view” in CarPlay, and the results from voice searches are considerably better with Google. For some reason the sound quality with Google Maps is absolutely attrociouis — when it speaks it sounds like it’s coming through a fast food drive through talk box — but the quality of the search results are great. Siri, by contrast, has excellent sound quality, but she doesn’t always find the result I want.
It's important to note that you are comparing your Apple Maps experience to Google Maps on Apple products. I have had Pixels for several years and can attest that the Google Maps experience on a Pixel is significantly better than on an iPhone.

Google Maps on Pixel is incredibly good.
 

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If Apple could get their estimating better and account for some more conditions as well as incorporating speed trap alerts then I would switch to it. Note: Just looked and it looks like they incorporated the speed trap alerts this year but many are saying they have never had an alert.
I started noticing these this year. I've found making the reports (for speed traps and hazards) somewhat challenging though. I think part of my problem is the touch calibration of the ID.4 screen (about half of my attempted taps don't register as such, whether to the built in climate app or to CarPlay). It's like tap to get the menus, tap into a menu, tap to report. So until you've found it once on accident and know it's there, it's pretty well hidden.
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