Which ADAS is Really Driving? It’s Mobileye!

[pamalabama]

Watch the Taco Bell run and tell me that again...

That's a dangerous use of a single camera that would never make it to a consumer build.

The torque limit is a self-imposed safety limit by OpenPilot which could be changed. The 90 degree limit that has been encountered in other vehicles and may be able to be bypassed in the future.

It is a limit of the steering column commands and not a limit imposed by comma.ai

It makes me wonder how rivian intends to offer city streets driving

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[JM.]

And all openpilot does is lane centering

LOL, what? No.

Torque has nothing to do with tires.

It absolutely does, the data is available for you to see also. I didn't save the link but there was a big chart of the differences posted by Comma and many users/devs. You're making things up and proclaiming them as fact.

 

[pamalabama]

LOL, what? No.



It absolutely does, the data is available for you to see also. I didn't save the link but there was a big chart of the differences posted by Comma and many users/devs. You're making things up and proclaiming them as fact.

Openpilot is a lane centering system that does user initiated auto lane change. It's mostly just a lane centering system. It is not using 360 degree inputs to make any other decisions. There is no reason you would need collaborative steering in a system that is doing more than just lane centering.

yes there is a difference in torque with different tires, but these are smaller differences. The steering column control module is fundamentally limited in what it can do to control the vehicle.

 

[risingphoenix]

It's mostly just a lane centering system.

Also you: "all openpilot does is lane centering"

Are those goalposts heavy lololol?

Just to complete the description of a level 2 ADAS:
Openpilot auto completes a lane change after CHECKING BSM.
Openpilot controls speed and adjusts speed using user input as well as speed limit sign detection.

Everybody here can see you have an agenda and we are not buying your bullshit.

Repeat after me: Openpilot is NOT intended to REPLACE the driver. It is intended to ASSIST the driver. Which it currently does better than Gen 2 Rivian.

 

[JM.]

Openpilot is a lane centering system that does user initiated auto lane change. It's mostly just a lane centering system. It is not using 360 degree inputs to make any other decisions. There is no reason you would need collaborative steering in a system that is doing more than just lane centering.

yes there is a difference in torque with different tires, but these are smaller differences. The steering column control module is fundamentally limited in what it can do to control the vehicle.

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like talking to anti-EV people who have made up/heard made up garbage.

 

[pamalabama]

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about. It's like talking to anti-EV people who have made up/heard made up garbage.

I have openpilot on one of the cars with the highest torque (toyota corolla) and it is just a lane centering system. There is no perception other than the forward facing camera and not anything that could safely cause the car to make a lane change on its own. A blind spot monitoring signal is not good enough for that.

It is not an AEB system and it is not an accident avoidance system. The rivian steering wheel cannot even turn more than 90 degrees.

I don't use it much because i mainly use tesla FSD

Because openpilot is only front perception if you have a truck beside you it will not scoot over if it is behind you. In that case, having 360 sensing like rivian does should eliminate this issue.

 

[risingphoenix]

I have openpilot on one of the cars with the highest torque (toyota corolla) and it is just a lane centering system. There is no perception other than the forward facing camera and not anything that could safely cause the car to make a lane change on its own. A blind spot monitoring signal is not good enough for that.

It is not an AEB system and it is not an accident avoidance system. The rivian steering wheel cannot even turn more than 90 degrees.

I don't use it much because i mainly use tesla FSD

Because openpilot is only front perception if you have a truck beside you it will not scoot over if it is behind you. In that case, having 360 sensing like rivian does should eliminate this issue.

You don’t own a Rivian what are you doing on a Rivian enthusiast forum talking shit like you think you know what you’re talking about?

I actually have a Tesla with FSD and a Rivian with comma 3x and I much prefer Sunnypilot to FSD. The comma ASSISTS me much better than FSD and the phantom braking on Tesla is absolutely intolerable.

 

[pamalabama]

You don’t own a Rivian what are you doing on a Rivian enthusiast forum talking shit like you think you know what you’re talking about?

I actually have a Tesla with FSD and a Rivian with comma 3x and I much prefer Sunnypilot to FSD. The comma ASSISTS me much better than FSD and the phantom braking on Tesla is absolutely intolerable.

FSD does not have phantom braking. And has not for years. Yes comma.ai does assist better when going straight in one lane, but the safety of tesla is higher and you don't need any input for a long drive

Comma.ai is doing too much with a single front facing camera already

 

[risingphoenix]

FSD does not have phantom braking.

100% wrong

 

[pamalabama]

100% wrong

HW4 does not have phantom braking. And has not for probably 1+ years at this point.


HW3 up until recently was V11 on the highway which was very old driving abilities. HW3 also performs badly in legacy model S/X (one with vertical screen) for some reason


Phantom braking on HW4 even with v11 was not nearly as bad as autopilot was

FSD on legacy S/X performs terrible. It's like 50% of what you get with other cars. Not sure why.

 

[risingphoenix]

HW4 does not have phantom braking. And has not for probably 1+ years at this point.


HW3 up until recently was V11 on the highway which was very old driving abilities. HW3 also performs badly in legacy model S/X (one with vertical screen) for some reason


Phantom braking on HW4 even with v11 was not nearly as bad as autopilot was

FSD on legacy S/X performs terrible. It's like 50% of what you get with other cars. Not sure why.

yeah you’re a complete loser. You make statement after statement that you know is a lie and then only admit you’re wrong when called out for it.
Apology accepted. Now go back to your home on the Tesla subreddit.

 

[pamalabama]

yeah you’re a complete loser. You make statement after statement that you know is a lie and then only admit you’re wrong when called out for it.
Apology accepted. Now go back to your home on the Tesla subreddit.

How did I admit I'm wrong? HW3 and HW4 do not have phantom braking

Maybe HW3 on legacy S/X has bad driving behaviors, but since january HW3 has had access to 12.6 which no longer uses the old v11 on highway. That is 5 months ago at this point

your information is probably outdated because you have not used FSD in that time period

 

[risingphoenix]

How did I admit I'm wrong? HW3 and HW4 do not have phantom braking

Maybe HW3 on legacy S/X has bad driving behaviors, but since january HW3 has had access to 12.6 which no longer uses the old v11 on highway. That is 5 months ago at this point

your information is probably outdated because you have not used FSD in that time period

Last week FSD phantom braking.
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