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If there a fuel (gasoline) shock due to internal or external circumstances where gas either reaches those 2007 level prices, I full expect ppl to move more to EVs.

My R1T is so much more cost effective over my wife's sedan since her car takes super unleaded.

I pay .20 per KwH at my office. So for a avg week of driving is $14 to $18 tops.
It rarely makes sense to switch from gas to electric for fuel cost savings. The math just doesn't really support it in the vast majority of situations.
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It might help you to think about the whole portfolio performance over any single stock performance.

Frankly, averaging down only makes sense if one is convinced that the price will recover. Otherwise, it's just throwing good money over bad. There are lot better opportunities than Rivian currently.

I know many people herein say that they are holding for the long term and I get why they say that. Just keep in mind what the dollars tied up on Rivian stock might do over the same period in another investment instead of waiting for the Rivian lottery to hit.

This is not to say one shouldn't buy and hold. I have those too but their performance has excelled so much so that I can tolerate dips and not be concerned about them.

If your portfolio is greater than before you bought Rivian, then you're doing okay. If not, stop keep pouring more money to avenge down so that you worsen the portfolio performance.
That's my exact thought process. Rivian has been one of my biggest losers and it seems like it will stay that way for the long haul. So it probably makes sense to sell at a loss and use that money in other investments that will grow.
 

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It rarely makes sense to switch from gas to electric for fuel cost savings. The math just doesn't really support it in the vast majority of situations.
It does for me. My electricity is 10 cents /kWh at home, and free at the office (if I need it). Much cheaper than gas for an similar truck.
 

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My prediction is no real pop until real profit and positive cash flow is posted.
 
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It does for me. My electricity is 10 cents /kWh at home, and free at the office (if I need it). Much cheaper than gas for an similar truck.
And you purchased a vehicle that was probably close to $100k. The math doesn't make sense. If gas prices are your reason to buy an EV, you're still in the hole.
 

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And you purchased a vehicle that was probably close to $100k. The math doesn't make sense. If gas prices are your reason to buy an EV, you're still in the hole.
I could have bought a gas truck that was just as tricked out for about the same cost (less than $100k, FYI) and would be getting destroyed on gas costs. Just because I could afford the vehicle that I have doesn't mean I magically don't care about the cost of ownership - and electricity is cheaper than gas for me. I also save money on maintenance - another factor when I decided to purchase my truck.
 
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I could have bought a gas truck that was just as tricked out for about the same cost (less than $100k, FYI) and would be getting destroyed on gas costs. Just because I could afford the vehicle that I have doesn't mean I magically don't care about the cost of ownership - and electricity is cheaper than gas for me. I also save money on maintenance - another factor when I decided to purchase my truck.
Like I said, if the price of gas is the reason you purchased an EV, then the math doesn't make any sense. It rarely does. You didn't get an EV to save on fuel costs, so don't try to suggest that you did.
 

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Like I said, if the price of gas is the reason you purchased an EV, then the math doesn't make any sense. It rarely does. You didn't get an EV to save on fuel costs, so don't try to suggest that you did.
This is the second time where you have missed my points: 1. Where I said "fuel" costs weren't the only reason why I got the truck, and 2. I actually am saving money by using electricity to power my truck vs gas.

If you try to again insist that I'm not saving money on fuel costs by driving an EV truck vs an ICE truck, I'm going to ask you how you know what my private finances are. If you admit that you DON'T know, then I won't put you on my ignore list. Does that sound fair?
 

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Like I said, if the price of gas is the reason you purchased an EV, then the math doesn't make any sense. It rarely does. You didn't get an EV to save on fuel costs, so don't try to suggest that you did.
I’m watching this thread and wondering if you even own an EV? You don’t own a Rivian according to your profile. I’m thinking you only own the stock and are trolling these forums for investment Insight.

FWIW, fuel economy is ALWAYS a factor in auto shopping, whether gas or electric. And it CAN be the factor that tips the balance. And EV’s, when charged at home are MUCH cheaper (mine is about one-third cost per mile than an ICE). But it is only ONE factor, and yet you somehow think EV owners only buy based on just cheaper fuel. VandalSibs never said that this was his only reason to buy a Rivian. His comments instead reflect a simple truth about EVs and that this maybe swayed him, among other Rivian assets.
 

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My prediction? Ok, the stock won't move significantly until they show a few quarterly profits. On R2 release day? I predict RIVN will be down 15%.
 

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This is the second time where you have missed my points: 1. Where I said "fuel" costs weren't the only reason why I got the truck, and 2. I actually am saving money by using electricity to power my truck vs gas.

If you try to again insist that I'm not saving money on fuel costs by driving an EV truck vs an ICE truck, I'm going to ask you how you know what my private finances are. If you admit that you DON'T know, then I won't put you on my ignore list. Does that sound fair?
Boy did you take a wrong turn. Let's start again. You commented that if gas prices rise, it will turn people towards EVs. I said that higher gas prices is a stupid reason to switch from ICE to EV. Why? Because it doesn't make sense financially. This was generally what we were talking about. As for you and your vehicle, it doesn't matter if you are saving money on fuel. Buying an expensive EV to save money on gas isn't a smart financial decision. The math simply doesn't math. If you can't figure that out for yourself, then nothing I can say will help you. But you and I both know that you didn't buy an EV to save money.
 
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My prediction? Ok, the stock won't move significantly until they show a few quarterly profits. On R2 release day? I predict RIVN will be down 15%.
I think that's a real possibility. I'm probably going to sell and move the money into other investments. One stock that I made a decent amount of money on is QuantumScape. They are doing into solid state battery technology. I already took my profits there just yesterday and left my original investment in place. Selling Rivian will help offset those gains.
 

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You commented that if gas prices rise, it will turn people towards EVs.
I never said that - that was a different poster.

As for you and your vehicle, it doesn't matter if you are saving money on fuel.
Then why did you insist that it wasn't possible for me to do so?

Buying an expensive EV to save money on gas isn't a smart financial decision.
The cost of fuel wasn't the only factor. You seem to keep ignoring that aspect of my decision making process.

The math simple doesn't math.
And here we are - you cannot definitively make that statement without knowing my finances. When I tell you that it saves ME money vs an ICE truck, you really should take that as fact. I am not implying that it does so for everyone, just me.
 

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Like I said, if the price of gas is the reason you purchased an EV, then the math doesn't make any sense. It rarely does. You didn't get an EV to save on fuel costs, so don't try to suggest that you did.
I bought my Rivian to support a company with worthwhile values in a time of needed transition. It's by far the most expensive vehicle I've ever, or will ever purchase. It's also the most awesome vehicle I have ever or will ever purchase.
I bought my Chevy volt in 2012 to commute, not pollute, and save money. It was around 30k out the door and I used almost exclusely electricity for my commute costing about a buck twenty for my 35 mile round trip commute. Then I bought my Equinox ev this year. It gets up to 4 miles per kWh so 40 miles for a buck and twenty cents. It was 29k out the door price.
The point is evs are becoming more affordable as they become more available. Just like tech has always been. If you want a luxury ev, there's one for you. If you want an affordable economy ev, there's also one available for you.
Don't lump all evs together into one catagory of purchase cost vs savings on fuel and maintenance.

And incidentally, the motorcycle in my profile picture is a 1950 Vincent Rapide with a black shadow cam. Also affectionately known as the VINCENT WHITE SHADOW.
 

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Lots of negative views here. Let me take the positive track. At $45,000 or so the R2 looks pretty compelling vs the competition. The Model Y is a high selling vehicle and the R2 looks better in almost every way. It’s a true SUV platform and not that lame “crossover” SUV. EV market share has been growing and will continue to grow long term. The range and charging issues are rapidly becoming a thing of the past with the surprisingly rapid build out with folks like Ionna and Walmart getting into the game in a big way. The Rivian brand identity is strong!
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