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Apple made many x86 machines, though. Like 15 years worth lol
I suppose that is why apple computers are relegated to a niche market, and reason why the glorious x86 machines rule the PC market worldwide by a landslide. It ain't even close.
Likewise, apple phones are also a niche market considering the massive, much higher market share for the great Android phones. But hey, anybody who wants to pay a ton for either apple product just for the sake of having a 'manzanita' logo, go right ahead, lol.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. Do your own research.
 

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Likewise, apple phones are also a niche market considering the massive, much higher market share for the great Android phones.
I wouldn’t call 25% of the global market “niche”, especially when it’s 58% to 42% in favor of Apple in the US market.

And the only reason to buy an x86 machine is to gut it & install Linux. Windows is by far the worst operating system in the world.

I absolutely love this analogy from years ago:

https://web.sas.upenn.edu/jasonrw/2015/12/29/if-operating-systems-were-airlines/
 

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I surmise it is some sort of Apple thing. Would not know. Nothing but Android and x86 machines for me forever, both THE real deal.
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I wouldn’t call 25% of the global market “niche”, especially when it’s 58% to 42% in favor of Apple in the US market.

And the only reason to buy an x86 machine is to gut it & install Linux. Windows is by far the worst operating system in the world.

I absolutely love this analogy from years ago:

https://web.sas.upenn.edu/jasonrw/2015/12/29/if-operating-systems-were-airlines/
I've worked with Windoze professionally in software development and systems integration since version 1.0 when it loaded under DOS and you could count the mouse lag time in seconds, lol. It's been, and continues to be, a hot mess ever since. Windoze 11 still contains some Windows 7 UI/UX, Microsoft is too lazy to clean up everything. They change UI/UX when sales and marketing decides it is time to rejuvenate sales, not because it offers a better experience. I use MacOS and Linux at home - because I've had my fill of Microsoft headaches and arbitrary whims at work.

"Nothing but x86 machines for me forever".
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I suppose that is why apple computers are relegated to a niche market, and reason why the glorious x86 machines rule the PC market worldwide by a landslide. It ain't even close.
Likewise, apple phones are also a niche market considering the massive, much higher market share for the great Android phones. But hey, anybody who wants to pay a ton for either apple product just for the sake of having a 'manzanita' logo, go right ahead, lol.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. Do your own research.
I think you are having a hard time keeping a thread here. Just let us know if you need help. It’s a friendly community.
 
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I wonder if Tesla is doing this because of robotaxi. I can see a scenario where someone calls a robotaxi, gets in syncs their iPhone to the entertainment system and has access to all their music, youtube, netflix, etc with very little effort using some special version of CarPlay. I hope Rivian does an about face and adds CarPlay to not just R2 but R1 as well. I would think it could be added to both generations of R1 but maybe they would limit to second gen R1s to minimize the amount of development time needed.

As an aside I test drove a Model Y and X (the 2026 updated one) a week ago and it was mandatory to use FSD for at least the first 10 minutes of the drive. It was really incredible how refined it was and how it handled really difficult situations in the parking lot and getting over multiple lanes safely to make an exit. The experience just reinforced how far ahead Tesla is in automated driving and that robotaxis are going to be widespread in the near future.
 

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I suppose that is why apple computers are relegated to a niche market, and reason why the glorious x86 machines rule the PC market worldwide by a landslide. It ain't even close.
Likewise, apple phones are also a niche market considering the massive, much higher market share for the great Android phones. But hey, anybody who wants to pay a ton for either apple product just for the sake of having a 'manzanita' logo, go right ahead, lol.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. Do your own research.
Sometimes it's impossible to know if a person is trolling or really that unhinged.

I'm tired of the ridiculous limitations of the non-CP systems in all cars, in 2025. It's ridiculous.
 

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I suppose that is why apple computers are relegated to a niche market, and reason why the glorious x86 machines rule the PC market worldwide by a landslide. It ain't even close.
Likewise, apple phones are also a niche market considering the massive, much higher market share for the great Android phones. But hey, anybody who wants to pay a ton for either apple product just for the sake of having a 'manzanita' logo, go right ahead, lol.
But, hey, don't take my word for it. Do your own research.
 
 








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