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First stop at a RAN site today off I90 in Ellensburg WA. They have a site for vehicles towing a trailer!

This will definitely be my top up spot when towing my boat to Chelan.

Way to go Rivian!
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Let me guess, 90% of the new chargers are in California within a few miles of existing RAN chargers. ;)

Crickets in the far northern planes and in a wide band along the Ohio river to the Mississippi. And everyone always forgets about Alaska and Hawaii.
They're built in the same spot as tesla superchargers just more expensive
 

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They're built in the same spot as tesla superchargers just more expensive
Not always. Don’t spread generalizations that aren’t always true. And if you have referrals, you get to charge for free, until the perk expires.

And 90% of new ones are not in CA. FFS people. Don’t be lazy. Look up actual information. On rivianroamer’s charging page you can sort the RAN list by “recently added”. It’s that easy to get actual information.

RAN prices are also clearly listed at rivianroamer, as shown in attached image. If you can read.
 
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After all these years there is finally a RAN near Rivian HQ in Irvine.
They're built in the same spot as tesla superchargers just more expensive
What the fuck are you talking about?
The Irvine RAN is $0.34-$0.49/kWh
The closest Tesla charger is 1.9 miles away by road and charges $0.74/kWh

Which, to be clear, means the Tesla charger is 50%-100% MORE THAN THE RAN CHARGER.

I suppose now you're going to tell me the sky is yellow and apples fall up from the tree.

You know you're in a cult when you have to deny basic facts in order to defend your spiritual leader Elon.

Go crawl back under your rock.
 

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What the fuck are you talking about?
The Irvine RAN is $0.34-$0.49/kWh
The closest Tesla charger is 1.9 miles away by road and charges $0.74/kWh

Which, to be clear, means the Tesla charger is 50%-100% MORE THAN THE RAN CHARGER.

I suppose now you're going to tell me the sky is yellow and apples fall up from the tree.

You know you're in a cult when you have to deny basic facts in order to defend your spiritual leader Elon.

Go crawl back under your rock.
Look at other chargers and they have a history of building them in exactly the same spot as tesla superchargers. You found ONE EXAMPLE where it is different.
 

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Look at other chargers and they have a history of building them in exactly the same spot as other chargers. You found ONE EXAMPLE where it is different.
Wrong. Just plain wrong. Tuck tail and go away. And even when RAN is near a Supercharger… Tell me, do you also complain when there are more than one gas station at any intersection?? Since when, as consumer, is it wrong to have options? Not only wrong, it’s an unintelligent complaint to hold against Rivian.
 

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Wrong. Just plain wrong. Tuck tail and go away. And even when RAN is near a Supercharger… Tell me, do you also complain when there are more than one gas station at any intersection?? Since when, as consumer, is it wrong to have options? Not only wrong, it’s an unintelligent complaint to hold against Rivian.

Go through the list of recently built chargers. Quite a lot of them are next to a supercharger

With the current charging we have in the U.S. I would think you would want to build them somewhere a supercharger is not. We don't have enough charging locations to be spoiled by choice
 

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The fact that you didn't even admit you were wrong is telling - that's really the only way you could have replied if you had any shred of intellectual honesty. Instead you had to go defend your statement and accuse me of cherry-picking the "one exception" to your "truth".

This thread is about the growth of the RAN network. Literally the post before yours announced the new Irvine, CA location. No cherry-picking involved - I applied your claim to the current example being discussed here. It doesn't take more than a minute of effort to find many more - the RAN I use most often for example charges $0.45/kWh. The Pilot charger close by is $0.53. The Tesla supercharger (> 5 miles away) is $0.55. Even the EA charger right next to that Tesla charger is cheaper. And the ONLY open Tesla supercharger within 25 miles of me charges $0.77/kWh. So don't give me this bullshit about how Tesla is always cheaper. In my neck of the woods, If there even is a Tesla charger on my route, it is almost always more expensive than the alternatives.

While the situation may be different where you are, that just shows that you have blinders on - you refuse to see or even consider the bigger picture. The Tesla supercharging network, for all its strengths, is not perfect and isn't the best in everything, everywhere, all at once.

With the current charging we have in the U.S. I would think you would want to build them somewhere a supercharger is not. We don't have enough charging locations to be spoiled by choice
Brilliant business strategy, Dinsdale. Build chargers where even Tesla doesn't find them profitable. Is that "The Operation" or "The Other Operation"?

Go spread your lies elsewhere.
 

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The fact that you didn't even admit you were wrong is telling - that's really the only way you could have replied if you had any shred of intellectual honesty. Instead you had to go defend your statement and accuse me of cherry-picking the "one exception" to your "truth".

This thread is about the growth of the RAN network. Literally the post before yours announced the new Irvine, CA location. No cherry-picking involved - I applied your claim to the current example being discussed here. It doesn't take more than a minute of effort to find many more - the RAN I use most often for example charges $0.45/kWh. The Pilot charger close by is $0.53. The Tesla supercharger (> 5 miles away) is $0.55. Even the EA charger right next to that Tesla charger is cheaper. And the ONLY open Tesla supercharger within 25 miles of me charges $0.77/kWh. So don't give me this bullshit about how Tesla is always cheaper. In my neck of the woods, If there even is a Tesla charger on my route, it is almost always more expensive than the alternatives.

While the situation may be different where you are, that just shows that you have blinders on - you refuse to see or even consider the bigger picture. The Tesla supercharging network, for all its strengths, is not perfect and isn't the best in everything, everywhere, all at once.


Brilliant business strategy, Dinsdale. Build chargers where even Tesla doesn't find them profitable. Is that "The Operation" or "The Other Operation"?

Go spread your lies elsewhere.
I am literally charging my truck right now at a RAN station. And it is 2.1 miles from the closest Tesla supercharger. Most of the RAN stations I've used are not near a Tesla supercharger.

Often it makes sense for Rivian to build a station near a Tesla station because the electrical infrastructure is already there. Also, there are so many Tesla stations it's almost impossible to avoid them.

Making a claim that Rivian selects locations based on Tesla locations is ridiculous. But then that's pretty much par for the course with this guy.
 

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his thread is about the growth of the RAN network. Literally the post before yours announced the new Irvine, CA location. No cherry-picking involved - I applied your claim to the current example being discussed here. It doesn't take more than a minute of effort to find many more - the RAN I use most often for example charges $0.45/kWh. The Pilot charger close by is $0.53. The Tesla supercharger (> 5 miles away) is $0.55. Even the EA charger right next to that Tesla charger is cheaper. And the ONLY open Tesla supercharger within 25 miles of me charges $0.77/kWh. So don't give me this bullshit about how Tesla is always cheaper. In my neck of the woods, If there even is a Tesla charger on my route, it is almost always more expensive than the alternatives.

While the situation may be different where you are, that just shows that you have blinders on - you refuse to see or even consider the bigger picture. The Tesla supercharging network, for all its strengths, is not perfect and isn't the best in everything, everywhere, all at once.
I'm not talking about in different cities. Same city different parking lots
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